Comments on: Extrinsic Motivation, A Myth? http://principleddiscovery.com/2006/03/06/extrinsic-motivation-a-myth/ If the foundations be destroyed, what shall the righteous do? --Psalm 11:3 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:00:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Anonymous http://principleddiscovery.com/2006/03/06/extrinsic-motivation-a-myth/#comment-36 Anonymous Fri, 18 May 2007 15:35:00 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/?p=78#comment-36 We all want to be heard and having a PhD gives some credibility to what we said. It also stops from averyone to express their oppinion as the ultimate statement.<br/>There are people like you that may have a good insight about something and they may have a better sense that many PhDs. If that is the case persuing higher education will allow you to discover other aspects you may not see now. Do you have enough intrinsic motivation? May be economic, or other limitations.<br/>As in any group you may have natural born talented individuals with the righ enviromental conditions, those will succeed no matter what. Education is not a one big magic method, up to some point if majority of children do not have a nurturing enviroment, the options for failure increase. We all want to be heard and having a PhD gives some credibility to what we said. It also stops from averyone to express their oppinion as the ultimate statement.
There are people like you that may have a good insight about something and they may have a better sense that many PhDs. If that is the case persuing higher education will allow you to discover other aspects you may not see now. Do you have enough intrinsic motivation? May be economic, or other limitations.
As in any group you may have natural born talented individuals with the righ enviromental conditions, those will succeed no matter what. Education is not a one big magic method, up to some point if majority of children do not have a nurturing enviroment, the options for failure increase.

]]> By: Dana http://principleddiscovery.com/2006/03/06/extrinsic-motivation-a-myth/#comment-35 Dana Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:05:00 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/?p=78#comment-35 Thank you, Welcome!<br/><br/>I find it interesting for all the emphasis we place on extrinsic motivation, many studies have found it actually to be de-motivating in the long run. Even rats, when they are satiated, stop working for the reward. Thank you, Welcome!

I find it interesting for all the emphasis we place on extrinsic motivation, many studies have found it actually to be de-motivating in the long run. Even rats, when they are satiated, stop working for the reward.

]]> By: Anonymous http://principleddiscovery.com/2006/03/06/extrinsic-motivation-a-myth/#comment-34 Anonymous Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:26:00 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/?p=78#comment-34 You have an interesting blog. I teach high school math and our assistant Superintendant told me during a summer school session that there is no such thing as intrinsic motivation. Those students all failed because we, as educators, failed to extrinsically motivate them. <br/><br/>When I think back to my years in high school, I got straight A's because of my desire to succeed. My parents did not pay me for A's like some did for their children. <br/><br/>I think there is value in both types of motivation but extrinsic motivation will only go so far if there is an absence of intrinsic motivation driving our students. You have an interesting blog. I teach high school math and our assistant Superintendant told me during a summer school session that there is no such thing as intrinsic motivation. Those students all failed because we, as educators, failed to extrinsically motivate them.

When I think back to my years in high school, I got straight A’s because of my desire to succeed. My parents did not pay me for A’s like some did for their children.

I think there is value in both types of motivation but extrinsic motivation will only go so far if there is an absence of intrinsic motivation driving our students.

]]> By: Dana http://principleddiscovery.com/2006/03/06/extrinsic-motivation-a-myth/#comment-33 Dana Sun, 02 Apr 2006 19:55:00 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/?p=78#comment-33 At least you have a good sense of humor, Doc. And whether or not your PhD would cause me personally to listen more? It kinda depends on whether we are talking about molecular biology or something else...On certain points, I'm sure I could find some who believed more with my worldview, and I suspect I would tend to believe their argumentation over yours...no offense<br/>: ) At least you have a good sense of humor, Doc. And whether or not your PhD would cause me personally to listen more? It kinda depends on whether we are talking about molecular biology or something else…On certain points, I’m sure I could find some who believed more with my worldview, and I suspect I would tend to believe their argumentation over yours…no offense
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]]> By: Almost Lazarus http://principleddiscovery.com/2006/03/06/extrinsic-motivation-a-myth/#comment-32 Almost Lazarus Sun, 02 Apr 2006 19:39:00 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/?p=78#comment-32 I have a PhD in molecular biology.<br/><br/>Does that make you listen to me a bit more? <br/><br/>I'm smiling - I do understand your precarious position between your thoughts, and your need not to "break brotherhood" with your fellow Christians at HSB. <br/><br/>Peace, <br/><br/>Doc I have a PhD in molecular biology.

Does that make you listen to me a bit more?

I’m smiling - I do understand your precarious position between your thoughts, and your need not to “break brotherhood” with your fellow Christians at HSB.

Peace,

Doc

]]> By: Beth http://principleddiscovery.com/2006/03/06/extrinsic-motivation-a-myth/#comment-31 Beth Sat, 01 Apr 2006 13:06:00 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/?p=78#comment-31 You wrote; "Sometimes I wish I had a PhD in something so I could just say stuff and people would listen to me."<br/><br/>hehehehe... I've thought the same thing. My *little* brother is about to graduate with his PhD in Physics, and it's blowing my mind. I keep thinking, "But hey, he's still my obnoxious, naive in so many ways, little brother!" LOL<br/><br/>How 'bout if I just call ya Dr.Dana? Then you can go around saying whatever you please and will at least be validated enough from hearing my accolades every now and then that you shan't have any room for doubting the legitimacy of your own words. I'll even quote you in my publishings from time to time. How's that?!<br/><br/>Hey, I think we should just like publish a whole book (collaberations of meaningful and important blogs by the prestigious and very wise - and principled - Dr. Dana) by you for that matter (you know, having our own publishing co. and all), and then, as I'm sure you know, having a book published and all, would make you an instant AUTHORITY!...by golly, that's much easier than getting a Ph.D., right? ;-) You wrote; “Sometimes I wish I had a PhD in something so I could just say stuff and people would listen to me.”

hehehehe… I’ve thought the same thing. My *little* brother is about to graduate with his PhD in Physics, and it’s blowing my mind. I keep thinking, “But hey, he’s still my obnoxious, naive in so many ways, little brother!” LOL

How ’bout if I just call ya Dr.Dana? Then you can go around saying whatever you please and will at least be validated enough from hearing my accolades every now and then that you shan’t have any room for doubting the legitimacy of your own words. I’ll even quote you in my publishings from time to time. How’s that?!

Hey, I think we should just like publish a whole book (collaberations of meaningful and important blogs by the prestigious and very wise - and principled - Dr. Dana) by you for that matter (you know, having our own publishing co. and all), and then, as I’m sure you know, having a book published and all, would make you an instant AUTHORITY!…by golly, that’s much easier than getting a Ph.D., right? ;-)

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