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	<title>Comments on: Grades and motivation</title>
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		<title>By: Miss Tresninos</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2007/03/08/grades-and-motivation/#comment-990</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss Tresninos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 23:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>take a "child full of wonder, curiosity and questions and turn him completely off of learning within three to five years."&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This definitely describes the problem we have by homeschooling like they do in school.  You are right about how conditioned we are to think in public school terms.  I have been struggling with this for the past year.  I am learning that the public school ideal may be good for, say, well, I can't really say who it's good for, definitely not the active, creative types like I have.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Of course, I live in CA where my record keeping doesn't have to be as intensive as it does in other states so we are very fortunate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>take a &#8220;child full of wonder, curiosity and questions and turn him completely off of learning within three to five years.&#8221;</p>
<p>This definitely describes the problem we have by homeschooling like they do in school.  You are right about how conditioned we are to think in public school terms.  I have been struggling with this for the past year.  I am learning that the public school ideal may be good for, say, well, I can&#8217;t really say who it&#8217;s good for, definitely not the active, creative types like I have.</p>
<p>Of course, I live in CA where my record keeping doesn&#8217;t have to be as intensive as it does in other states so we are very fortunate.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 22:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. Grades are good motivators. I think it's good if we introduce it to our kids as early as possible. It could added in their list of motivations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. Grades are good motivators. I think it&#8217;s good if we introduce it to our kids as early as possible. It could added in their list of motivations.</p>
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		<title>By: Headmistress</title>
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		<dc:creator>Headmistress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 21:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this post...very informative and I look forward to reading your other posts you linked.  "To grade or not to grade" is something I haven't even given a thought to yet...of course, our oldest just turns 5 next month, so it's not like I'm in a big hurry.  But definitely good food for thought...:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this post&#8230;very informative and I look forward to reading your other posts you linked.  &#8220;To grade or not to grade&#8221; is something I haven&#8217;t even given a thought to yet&#8230;of course, our oldest just turns 5 next month, so it&#8217;s not like I&#8217;m in a big hurry.  But definitely good food for thought&#8230;:)</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 17:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw, I haven't started grading, yet.  I might next year, just for the sake of having a better record than a list of concepts that have been mastered or need additional work.  We don't move on until a thing is mastered, but I agree...grading on some things is way easier than others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw, I haven&#8217;t started grading, yet.  I might next year, just for the sake of having a better record than a list of concepts that have been mastered or need additional work.  We don&#8217;t move on until a thing is mastered, but I agree&#8230;grading on some things is way easier than others.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2007/03/08/grades-and-motivation/#comment-986</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 17:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie, that sounds like what you've described of Marissa!  I think I'd be the same way as you.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Judy, I certainly don't have a problem with grades.  Particularly older kids seem to have a desire to know how they measure against whatever standard.  And an older child may tend to be more motivated simply to improve in a subject.  I just thought the question was odd, particularly given the age of the two children in question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie, that sounds like what you&#8217;ve described of Marissa!  I think I&#8217;d be the same way as you.</p>
<p>Judy, I certainly don&#8217;t have a problem with grades.  Particularly older kids seem to have a desire to know how they measure against whatever standard.  And an older child may tend to be more motivated simply to improve in a subject.  I just thought the question was odd, particularly given the age of the two children in question.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy Aron</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2007/03/08/grades-and-motivation/#comment-985</link>
		<dc:creator>Judy Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 14:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At one point along our homeschooling journey my kids demanded that I give them grades.  They wanted to know how they were doing. It was somehow important for them to be able to benchmark themselves. They valued doing well.&lt;br/&gt;There was some satisfaction for them to know that they could obtain a good grade, and with a bad grade they knew that they had to work a little harder. of course we never moved onto something else until they mastered what they were learning.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It is easy to give a grade on concepts or problems that are either right or wrong. Like math questions, grammatical errors, historical or geographical facts.  I have always had difficulty grading anything that was an opinion or conceptual in nature. It becomes, in that case, more of whether or not they presented a convincing case, had their facts and put forth a logical explanation of things.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Of course discussing grades, what they mean to whom, and what their purpose is, with your kids is a lesson in and of itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At one point along our homeschooling journey my kids demanded that I give them grades.  They wanted to know how they were doing. It was somehow important for them to be able to benchmark themselves. They valued doing well.<br />There was some satisfaction for them to know that they could obtain a good grade, and with a bad grade they knew that they had to work a little harder. of course we never moved onto something else until they mastered what they were learning.</p>
<p>It is easy to give a grade on concepts or problems that are either right or wrong. Like math questions, grammatical errors, historical or geographical facts.  I have always had difficulty grading anything that was an opinion or conceptual in nature. It becomes, in that case, more of whether or not they presented a convincing case, had their facts and put forth a logical explanation of things.</p>
<p>Of course discussing grades, what they mean to whom, and what their purpose is, with your kids is a lesson in and of itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 11:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I just had to share a Marissa-ism. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I was surprised at one parent-teacher meeting to learn that Marissa was failing spelling. She has savant like language skills. Any word she sees once, she can spell. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;When I got home, I asked her, "What's up?"&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;"Of course I am failing spelling. I don't do the homework. Spelling homework is for kids that don't know how to spell and need the practice. I already know how to spell."&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I didn't know how to respond. She was right. She didn't need to do spelling homework. It was a waste of her time and mine. I learned that I was too motivated by grades ~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I just had to share a Marissa-ism. </p>
<p>I was surprised at one parent-teacher meeting to learn that Marissa was failing spelling. She has savant like language skills. Any word she sees once, she can spell. </p>
<p>When I got home, I asked her, &#8220;What&#8217;s up?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Of course I am failing spelling. I don&#8217;t do the homework. Spelling homework is for kids that don&#8217;t know how to spell and need the practice. I already know how to spell.&#8221;</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know how to respond. She was right. She didn&#8217;t need to do spelling homework. It was a waste of her time and mine. I learned that I was too motivated by grades ~</p>
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