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		<title>By: Joel</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2007/11/04/art-education/#comment-3253</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes! I agree that the &lt;b&gt;humanization&lt;/b&gt; benefits of art education are much more important for character development than any other aspect. However, the academic benefits are great in some situations.

In my district, they have reduced the elementary students to ONE day a week (45 minutes) of both art and music. Imagine trying to teach &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; to kindergarten students for 45 minutes. And imagine trying to provide consistency for 5th grade students and only seeing them once a week.

When they hit sixth grade, they have one elective every day. The options are Art, Band, Choir, Spanish, Strings, Theater Arts, or Office Aide.

This means that nearly half of the students in the district end up graduating with a grand total of somewhere right around 325 hours of combined art and music classes.

We are not in peril of funding cuts for the programs (Texas high school football &lt;b&gt;requires&lt;/b&gt; a well-funded band program). But there are numerous foreseeable problems that could potentially happen as a result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes! I agree that the <b>humanization</b> benefits of art education are much more important for character development than any other aspect. However, the academic benefits are great in some situations.</p>
<p>In my district, they have reduced the elementary students to ONE day a week (45 minutes) of both art and music. Imagine trying to teach <i>anything</i> to kindergarten students for 45 minutes. And imagine trying to provide consistency for 5th grade students and only seeing them once a week.</p>
<p>When they hit sixth grade, they have one elective every day. The options are Art, Band, Choir, Spanish, Strings, Theater Arts, or Office Aide.</p>
<p>This means that nearly half of the students in the district end up graduating with a grand total of somewhere right around 325 hours of combined art and music classes.</p>
<p>We are not in peril of funding cuts for the programs (Texas high school football <b>requires</b> a well-funded band program). But there are numerous foreseeable problems that could potentially happen as a result.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2007/11/04/art-education/#comment-3200</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Renae and Ashok.  

For the quick answer, Ashok, I would say both are important and it is never really too early.  But obviously what you covered has to be geared to the age group you are talking about.

I have connected art with science, history, math, etc., but we take time to appreciate it on its own as well.  It does tell a lot about a culture and about an individual within the culture so can easily be used to demonstrate themes of a period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Renae and Ashok.  </p>
<p>For the quick answer, Ashok, I would say both are important and it is never really too early.  But obviously what you covered has to be geared to the age group you are talking about.</p>
<p>I have connected art with science, history, math, etc., but we take time to appreciate it on its own as well.  It does tell a lot about a culture and about an individual within the culture so can easily be used to demonstrate themes of a period.</p>
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		<title>By: ashok</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2007/11/04/art-education/#comment-3189</link>
		<dc:creator>ashok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When do you think the appropriate time to teach art history might be? Does it complement world history more, or should it be seen as more tied to a child's/teenager's creativity?

Just curious, kinda want to see the reasoning that might go into this in a later entry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When do you think the appropriate time to teach art history might be? Does it complement world history more, or should it be seen as more tied to a child&#8217;s/teenager&#8217;s creativity?</p>
<p>Just curious, kinda want to see the reasoning that might go into this in a later entry.</p>
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		<title>By: Renae</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2007/11/04/art-education/#comment-3165</link>
		<dc:creator>Renae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look forward to your following entries on this subject. I have collected a lot of resources for teaching art, but have yet to really implement them. 

I enjoy art, so I know that my children get some knowledge just through that, but as you thoughtfully stated there is much to be learned by taking the time to teach and reflect on the creative expressions of man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to your following entries on this subject. I have collected a lot of resources for teaching art, but have yet to really implement them. </p>
<p>I enjoy art, so I know that my children get some knowledge just through that, but as you thoughtfully stated there is much to be learned by taking the time to teach and reflect on the creative expressions of man.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2007/11/04/art-education/#comment-3158</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Im from Melbourne. Please find a completely different understanding of Art and its Sacred purpose via this essay.

1. www.aboutadidam.org/readings/art_is_love/index.html

Plus a related  essay on the necessity of Sacred Culture for the cultivation of true sanity, and also the necessary place within which Sacred Art can only be "produced".

2. www.dabase.org/restsacr.htm

Plus unique essays on Conscious Child-Rearing

3. www.dabase.org/children.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Im from Melbourne. Please find a completely different understanding of Art and its Sacred purpose via this essay.</p>
<p>1. <a href="http://www.aboutadidam.org/readings/art_is_love/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.aboutadidam.org/readings/art_is_love/index.html</a></p>
<p>Plus a related  essay on the necessity of Sacred Culture for the cultivation of true sanity, and also the necessary place within which Sacred Art can only be &#8220;produced&#8221;.</p>
<p>2. <a href="http://www.dabase.org/restsacr.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.dabase.org/restsacr.htm</a></p>
<p>Plus unique essays on Conscious Child-Rearing</p>
<p>3. <a href="http://www.dabase.org/children.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.dabase.org/children.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2007/11/04/art-education/#comment-3157</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for your comments and contribution to the entry, Rob and Mrs. Mecomber!  I don't remember any of my art classes, so I can't say if they were like that or not.  That is just what it seemed like in the training I went to!

Kaz,  I think you misunderstood my entry.  I have no "fear and disinterest in using art to teach mathematical skills."  It is a wonderful addition.  I do that myself with my children.

But that is not THE reason for teaching art and should not be THE reason that we argue for keeping the arts in schools.  Art is important in its own right, not merely for its ability to promote skills in the core areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for your comments and contribution to the entry, Rob and Mrs. Mecomber!  I don&#8217;t remember any of my art classes, so I can&#8217;t say if they were like that or not.  That is just what it seemed like in the training I went to!</p>
<p>Kaz,  I think you misunderstood my entry.  I have no &#8220;fear and disinterest in using art to teach mathematical skills.&#8221;  It is a wonderful addition.  I do that myself with my children.</p>
<p>But that is not THE reason for teaching art and should not be THE reason that we argue for keeping the arts in schools.  Art is important in its own right, not merely for its ability to promote skills in the core areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaz Maslanka</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2007/11/04/art-education/#comment-3156</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaz Maslanka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand your fear and disinterest in using art to teach mathematical skills however, the inverse of that situation also exists. I teach mathematical minded people art by putting art in the context that they understand (math).  There are two separate aesthetics here … one of art and the other of math and you really don’t teach one aesthetic by means of the other however, you can blend the two aesthetics in one particular work of art/math.  That is what we do with mathematical poetry.  I believe in keeping both aesthetics apart however, allowing them to mingle. 

Good luck!
Kaz
http://mathematicalpoetry.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand your fear and disinterest in using art to teach mathematical skills however, the inverse of that situation also exists. I teach mathematical minded people art by putting art in the context that they understand (math).  There are two separate aesthetics here … one of art and the other of math and you really don’t teach one aesthetic by means of the other however, you can blend the two aesthetics in one particular work of art/math.  That is what we do with mathematical poetry.  I believe in keeping both aesthetics apart however, allowing them to mingle. </p>
<p>Good luck!<br />
Kaz<br />
<a href="http://mathematicalpoetry.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://mathematicalpoetry.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Mecomber</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2007/11/04/art-education/#comment-3149</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. Mecomber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 00:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I majored in Art in high school (and I mean REALLY majored-- my senior year was gym, English, and Art classes galore) and studied Art History in Manhattan. Art is so much more than crayons and watercolors. Art in its historical form is a reflection of a culture. Art is the visual history of a culture and how individuals in that culture respond to their environment. 

I studied Egyptian, Greek, and Roman art and history all in one course. It was fascinating. Since children have a natural affinity for "hands on" projects, art as a course provides the "doing" part of school while at the same time giving historical depth. Crafts are fun for elementary age, but as the child matures, art can be the greatest tool in exposing the student to other cultures, concepts, and histories.

I especially liked your cartoon, lol. I do not remember my own art classes ever being like that (although my teacher once gave me an A- because I copied his own drawing perfectly-- as a prank), I can understand how children can take such things to heart. Kids are very sensitive about their self-expression. Throwing them into a performance-based class where their individual expression is judged by their peers expressions, is, in my opinion, harmful to the young student. Art is an expression of what you see and what you think. In education, it is an important component of understanding other people and their environments, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I majored in Art in high school (and I mean REALLY majored&#8211; my senior year was gym, English, and Art classes galore) and studied Art History in Manhattan. Art is so much more than crayons and watercolors. Art in its historical form is a reflection of a culture. Art is the visual history of a culture and how individuals in that culture respond to their environment. </p>
<p>I studied Egyptian, Greek, and Roman art and history all in one course. It was fascinating. Since children have a natural affinity for &#8220;hands on&#8221; projects, art as a course provides the &#8220;doing&#8221; part of school while at the same time giving historical depth. Crafts are fun for elementary age, but as the child matures, art can be the greatest tool in exposing the student to other cultures, concepts, and histories.</p>
<p>I especially liked your cartoon, lol. I do not remember my own art classes ever being like that (although my teacher once gave me an A- because I copied his own drawing perfectly&#8211; as a prank), I can understand how children can take such things to heart. Kids are very sensitive about their self-expression. Throwing them into a performance-based class where their individual expression is judged by their peers expressions, is, in my opinion, harmful to the young student. Art is an expression of what you see and what you think. In education, it is an important component of understanding other people and their environments, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob at Kintropy</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2007/11/04/art-education/#comment-3148</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob at Kintropy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for writing on this subject.  Maybe I am partial to the subject (my wife was a Fine Art major and we met in an art history class), but...

Art is an interpretive subject when taught well - what did the artist mean, what is he/she saying, what is her/his history that might prompt the creation of this particular arwork, what could you say yourself through art, etc..

Particularly in school outside the home, critical thinking and original interpretation are exceedingly rare.  Creative writing, art, and even art history are important core subjects, I think, for future success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for writing on this subject.  Maybe I am partial to the subject (my wife was a Fine Art major and we met in an art history class), but&#8230;</p>
<p>Art is an interpretive subject when taught well - what did the artist mean, what is he/she saying, what is her/his history that might prompt the creation of this particular arwork, what could you say yourself through art, etc..</p>
<p>Particularly in school outside the home, critical thinking and original interpretation are exceedingly rare.  Creative writing, art, and even art history are important core subjects, I think, for future success.</p>
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