Comments on: Carnival of Principled Government posted http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/01/15/carnival-of-principled-government-posted/ If the foundations be destroyed, what shall the righteous do? --Psalm 11:3 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:53:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Dana http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/01/15/carnival-of-principled-government-posted/#comment-4196 Dana Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:24:23 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/?p=770#comment-4196 Sorry...my fault on confusing what he is specifically wishing to amend. But the main issue is the same. So long as he is proposing to work through the process outlined by the Constitution, I do not see an issue. And even this is a broadly supported issue, I assume mostly supported by Christians. The amendment didn't have enough votes to pass, but it did receive a majority of votes. Interestingly, Kerry's stance is not all that different although he does oppose a Federal Marriage Amendment. For the record, so do I. But that isn't really what the concern is. I think it is interesting that those who propose going through the constitutionally prescribed method of an amendment are somehow drawing criticism for that. It is how our government is supposed to work. On the other hand, the way gay marriage has taken place thus far has not gone through normal legal channels, except in New Hampshire, if I understand correctly. Sorry…my fault on confusing what he is specifically wishing to amend.

But the main issue is the same. So long as he is proposing to work through the process outlined by the Constitution, I do not see an issue.

And even this is a broadly supported issue, I assume mostly supported by Christians. The amendment didn’t have enough votes to pass, but it did receive a majority of votes. Interestingly, Kerry’s stance is not all that different although he does oppose a Federal Marriage Amendment.

For the record, so do I. But that isn’t really what the concern is.

I think it is interesting that those who propose going through the constitutionally prescribed method of an amendment are somehow drawing criticism for that. It is how our government is supposed to work. On the other hand, the way gay marriage has taken place thus far has not gone through normal legal channels, except in New Hampshire, if I understand correctly.

]]> By: Norman Doering http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/01/15/carnival-of-principled-government-posted/#comment-4193 Norman Doering Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:29:39 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/?p=770#comment-4193 <blockquote>Or do you only find it disturbing that he bases this on his faith?</blockquote> Yes. He said: "... to amend the Constitution so it’s in God’s standards." That's his interpretation of God's standards. And the context is the last attempt to amend the Constitution was Bush's marriage amendment, not about abortion. You both think you know God's standards and that they should apply to everyone even those who think those aren't God's standards?

Or do you only find it disturbing that he bases this on his faith?

Yes.

He said: “… to amend the Constitution so it’s in God’s standards.”

That’s his interpretation of God’s standards. And the context is the last attempt to amend the Constitution was Bush’s marriage amendment, not about abortion.

You both think you know God’s standards and that they should apply to everyone even those who think those aren’t God’s standards?

]]> By: Dana http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/01/15/carnival-of-principled-government-posted/#comment-4184 Dana Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:25:18 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/?p=770#comment-4184 Are you trying to say he is some sort of whacked out nut because he proposes to work through the normal Constitutional process to pass an amendment? It sounds better than appointing judges to interpret things into it that aren't there or declaring it a living document. I doubt he would be successful, but he certainly isn't the first to propose an amendment. Or do you only find it disturbing that he bases this on his faith? The nation is split almost 50/50 on the abortion issue. Not all pro-lifers support amendments, but if your litmus test for fundamentalism is this issue, than that is a little frightening. Are you trying to say he is some sort of whacked out nut because he proposes to work through the normal Constitutional process to pass an amendment?

It sounds better than appointing judges to interpret things into it that aren’t there or declaring it a living document.

I doubt he would be successful, but he certainly isn’t the first to propose an amendment. Or do you only find it disturbing that he bases this on his faith?

The nation is split almost 50/50 on the abortion issue. Not all pro-lifers support amendments, but if your litmus test for fundamentalism is this issue, than that is a little frightening.

]]> By: Norman Doering http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/01/15/carnival-of-principled-government-posted/#comment-4183 Norman Doering Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:06:51 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/?p=770#comment-4183 You didn't have a problem with Huckabee saying: "It's no longer your life; you've signed it over." How do you feel about this Huckabee quote: <blockquote>"I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution. But I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that's what we need to do -- to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view."</blockquote> Context: http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Huckabee_Amend_Constitution_to_meet_Gods_0115.html You didn’t have a problem with Huckabee saying: “It’s no longer your life; you’ve signed it over.”

How do you feel about this Huckabee quote:

“I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution. But I believe it’s a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that’s what we need to do — to amend the Constitution so it’s in God’s standards rather than try to change God’s standards so it lines up with some contemporary view.”

Context:
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Huckabee_Amend_Constitution_to_meet_Gods_0115.html

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