Comments on: A vision for the church http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/12/a-vision-for-the-church/ If the foundations be destroyed, what shall the righteous do? --Psalm 11:3 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:28:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: mrsdurff http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/12/a-vision-for-the-church/#comment-119039 mrsdurff Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:10:57 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/12/a-vision-for-the-church/#comment-119039 The miracle of community occurred in your midst. The miracle of community occurred in your midst.

]]> By: Dana http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/12/a-vision-for-the-church/#comment-85031 Dana Wed, 13 Feb 2008 06:42:28 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/12/a-vision-for-the-church/#comment-85031 Nothing wrong with a little private socialism. It is pretty much how the family operates. The problem is when the government gets into it...then it looks more like legalized theft. : ) Seriously, though, it is a little disconcerting how often we pray for things when we are unwilling to act as well. And Julie, a little lunch after church would be grand, wouldn't it? Nothing wrong with a little private socialism. It is pretty much how the family operates. The problem is when the government gets into it…then it looks more like legalized theft. : )

Seriously, though, it is a little disconcerting how often we pray for things when we are unwilling to act as well.

And Julie, a little lunch after church would be grand, wouldn’t it?

]]> By: Jennifer in OR http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/12/a-vision-for-the-church/#comment-84246 Jennifer in OR Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:42:32 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/12/a-vision-for-the-church/#comment-84246 Julie, I never thought of being accused of being a socialist, but I can see your point!! Oh my. And yes, a God Economy would be just fine, too. Julie, I never thought of being accused of being a socialist, but I can see your point!! Oh my. And yes, a God Economy would be just fine, too.

]]> By: Renae http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/12/a-vision-for-the-church/#comment-83735 Renae Wed, 13 Feb 2008 00:06:35 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/12/a-vision-for-the-church/#comment-83735 Such an important verse! I have had the same question for many years. When the church loves one another, the very glory of God shines. Such an important verse! I have had the same question for many years. When the church loves one another, the very glory of God shines.

]]> By: Julie@Shanan Trail http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/12/a-vision-for-the-church/#comment-83107 Julie@Shanan Trail Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:20:51 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/12/a-vision-for-the-church/#comment-83107 Jennifer in OR, I clarified because I made a similar comment on another blog once and was blasted for supporting socialism. But you are right there is a Jesus Economy in the Bible. Well, actually, the same economic rules seemed to apply in the Old Testament... so maybe it is just a God Economy. Jennifer in OR, I clarified because I made a similar comment on another blog once and was blasted for supporting socialism. But you are right there is a Jesus Economy in the Bible. Well, actually, the same economic rules seemed to apply in the Old Testament… so maybe it is just a God Economy.

]]> By: Crimson Wife http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/12/a-vision-for-the-church/#comment-82867 Crimson Wife Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:15:37 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/12/a-vision-for-the-church/#comment-82867 ChristineMM- I'm sorry to hear that your husband's parish does not have more active ministries. As a Catholic who's lived in 6 different places over the past decade, I can say that it really varies from parish to parish and the key factor seems to be the pastor. Some pastors really embrace their role in helping their flock find ways to serve God and their neighbors. Others are content to pass the buck so to speak to the diocese. FWIW, I've heard Protestant friends of mine give the same complaint as a reason why they switched churches. Catholics often don't have the option of choosing among multiple parishes. I've had to simply wait out a mediocre priest in the past for that reason. ChristineMM- I’m sorry to hear that your husband’s parish does not have more active ministries. As a Catholic who’s lived in 6 different places over the past decade, I can say that it really varies from parish to parish and the key factor seems to be the pastor. Some pastors really embrace their role in helping their flock find ways to serve God and their neighbors. Others are content to pass the buck so to speak to the diocese.

FWIW, I’ve heard Protestant friends of mine give the same complaint as a reason why they switched churches. Catholics often don’t have the option of choosing among multiple parishes. I’ve had to simply wait out a mediocre priest in the past for that reason.

]]> By: Jennifer in OR http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/12/a-vision-for-the-church/#comment-82575 Jennifer in OR Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:43:40 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/12/a-vision-for-the-church/#comment-82575 What a great post. I don't know any of those people, but I'm praising God for the boy's healing, and for the true biblical fellowship and care and nurture among the body. Julie mentioned that she's not talking about an economic theory <em>(“They had all things common. There was not any among them who lacked, care was taken for their supply.” I am not talking about an economic theory;...)</em>. I do like to call this<b> Jesus Economics</b>, though. :-) Can you imagine if the Church operated on a totally different economy, a "Jesus Economy," in which there was little money exchanged, needs were met, a beautiful give and take...sounds like utopia, I know. But I think the Church can make some changes to move toward something like this, though never reaching perfection this side of Heaven. What a great post. I don’t know any of those people, but I’m praising God for the boy’s healing, and for the true biblical fellowship and care and nurture among the body.

Julie mentioned that she’s not talking about an economic theory (“They had all things common. There was not any among them who lacked, care was taken for their supply.” I am not talking about an economic theory;…). I do like to call this Jesus Economics, though. :-) Can you imagine if the Church operated on a totally different economy, a “Jesus Economy,” in which there was little money exchanged, needs were met, a beautiful give and take…sounds like utopia, I know. But I think the Church can make some changes to move toward something like this, though never reaching perfection this side of Heaven.

]]> By: Julie@Shanan Trail http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/12/a-vision-for-the-church/#comment-82458 Julie@Shanan Trail Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:04:21 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/12/a-vision-for-the-church/#comment-82458 [Julie, were you sitting in on our sermon Sunday?] I wish! I would have taken you to lunch afterward and enjoyed an afternoon of fellowship, mentoring... how fun! [Julie, were you sitting in on our sermon Sunday?] I wish! I would have taken you to lunch afterward and enjoyed an afternoon of fellowship, mentoring… how fun!

]]> By: Dana http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/12/a-vision-for-the-church/#comment-82023 Dana Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:20:48 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/12/a-vision-for-the-church/#comment-82023 Julie, were you sitting in on our sermon Sunday? When it is posted, I may provide a link to anyone interested but it was about biblical fellowship. ChristineMM, I've seen that, too. I've been on both sides between churches who believed it was "someone else's" job to minister and those who believe it is our job. Their is an entirely different culture in them. Julie, were you sitting in on our sermon Sunday? When it is posted, I may provide a link to anyone interested but it was about biblical fellowship.

ChristineMM, I’ve seen that, too. I’ve been on both sides between churches who believed it was “someone else’s” job to minister and those who believe it is our job. Their is an entirely different culture in them.

]]> By: ChristineMM http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/12/a-vision-for-the-church/#comment-81944 ChristineMM Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:52:52 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/12/a-vision-for-the-church/#comment-81944 Oh and I should say also that my church does support missions, local ministries that serve the community, American missions work and missions work done abroad. But the church does help the actual church attendees in many ways also. Oh and I should say also that my church does support missions, local ministries that serve the community, American missions work and missions work done abroad. But the church does help the actual church attendees in many ways also.

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