Comments on: Roots of Christian education http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/20/roots-of-christian-education/ If the foundations be destroyed, what shall the righteous do? --Psalm 11:3 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:24:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Rose http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/20/roots-of-christian-education/#comment-169004 Rose Tue, 26 Feb 2008 01:09:08 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/20/roots-of-christian-education/#comment-169004 Excuse me, what the Deuteronomy *passage* is getting at. Not that Deuteronomy is a person who said anything :0) Excuse me, what the Deuteronomy *passage* is getting at. Not that Deuteronomy is a person who said anything :0)

]]> By: Dana http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/20/roots-of-christian-education/#comment-169003 Dana Tue, 26 Feb 2008 01:06:21 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/20/roots-of-christian-education/#comment-169003 Or at least have them more available and to count for credit when someone finds one. I don't like the model Florida is pursuing, but more options would be good. Particularly for kids who know what they want. Or at least have them more available and to count for credit when someone finds one. I don’t like the model Florida is pursuing, but more options would be good. Particularly for kids who know what they want.

]]> By: Rose http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/20/roots-of-christian-education/#comment-169000 Rose Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:56:12 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/20/roots-of-christian-education/#comment-169000 Hopefully this isn't too off the topic of the post, some of the comments interested me. I love the idea of apprenticeship. I attended public school from preschool through college, and looking back, I think it would be a great idea to replace the middle school years with apprenticeships :0) Joking aside, my last two years of college I was required to have an internship (unpaid). It made all the difference in the world. To apply what you are learning in the real world, while you are learning it? That is education to me. And I think, at its very basis, that is what Deut is getting at. Hopefully this isn’t too off the topic of the post, some of the comments interested me.

I love the idea of apprenticeship. I attended public school from preschool through college, and looking back, I think it would be a great idea to replace the middle school years with apprenticeships :0) Joking aside, my last two years of college I was required to have an internship (unpaid). It made all the difference in the world. To apply what you are learning in the real world, while you are learning it? That is education to me. And I think, at its very basis, that is what Deut is getting at.

]]> By: Lori http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/20/roots-of-christian-education/#comment-162678 Lori Mon, 25 Feb 2008 03:30:56 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/20/roots-of-christian-education/#comment-162678 Dana, you've come to many of the same conclusions I have concerning how the Jews handled the teaching of their children. Lori Dana, you’ve come to many of the same conclusions I have concerning how the Jews handled the teaching of their children.

Lori

]]> By: Sunniemom http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/20/roots-of-christian-education/#comment-137227 Sunniemom Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:52:43 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/20/roots-of-christian-education/#comment-137227 Our 11 yob can go with my dh to work on his half-day, which is really a great experience for him. It is interesting in that he hears alot of words not allowed on network television, and we are teaching him how to deal with that appropriately. Our firstborn apprenticed at a local HVAC company, and looking back now he says it is one of the best things we did for him, as it has given him experience to draw on in thinking on his feet and dealing with people that has nothing to do with fixing an air conditioner. Our 11 yob can go with my dh to work on his half-day, which is really a great experience for him. It is interesting in that he hears alot of words not allowed on network television, and we are teaching him how to deal with that appropriately.

Our firstborn apprenticed at a local HVAC company, and looking back now he says it is one of the best things we did for him, as it has given him experience to draw on in thinking on his feet and dealing with people that has nothing to do with fixing an air conditioner.

]]> By: Dana http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/20/roots-of-christian-education/#comment-134747 Dana Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:45:47 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/20/roots-of-christian-education/#comment-134747 I like that idea, as well, Renae. And the whole idea of apprenticeship. I like that idea, as well, Renae. And the whole idea of apprenticeship.

]]> By: Renae http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/20/roots-of-christian-education/#comment-134619 Renae Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:02:40 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/20/roots-of-christian-education/#comment-134619 Interesting question. I tend to look at what is wrong, rather than what is ideal. I guess I am not as concerned with the system as with who is in the system. Ideally, my children would be educated by self-governed, master teachers who inspire them to love learning. I, also, like the idea of my son learning a vocation. At one of my husband's jobs, Bug can go with him. They both enjoy it immensely. Bug learns so many things helping his dad. The work is simply cleaning, but he sees his dad's character, and he can ask all the questions he wants. Interesting question. I tend to look at what is wrong, rather than what is ideal. I guess I am not as concerned with the system as with who is in the system. Ideally, my children would be educated by self-governed, master teachers who inspire them to love learning.

I, also, like the idea of my son learning a vocation. At one of my husband’s jobs, Bug can go with him. They both enjoy it immensely. Bug learns so many things helping his dad. The work is simply cleaning, but he sees his dad’s character, and he can ask all the questions he wants.

]]> By: Dana http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/20/roots-of-christian-education/#comment-133799 Dana Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:51:35 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/20/roots-of-christian-education/#comment-133799 Whereas I've read like three things of theirs. I'm not overly impressed with it...I like the idea, but the writing is not that good and the spiritual insight or whatever you want to call it is not particularly insightful. It runs more like a summary I might write after a sermon rather than something that is supposed to inspire pastors, or create a forum for spiritual discussion (which I believe was their mission, or something close to it). But I did find this to be much improved over the conundrum they set themselves up with the last entry they posted on the subject, mostly because they started with scripture rather than a problem they could not solve. Whereas I’ve read like three things of theirs. I’m not overly impressed with it…I like the idea, but the writing is not that good and the spiritual insight or whatever you want to call it is not particularly insightful. It runs more like a summary I might write after a sermon rather than something that is supposed to inspire pastors, or create a forum for spiritual discussion (which I believe was their mission, or something close to it).

But I did find this to be much improved over the conundrum they set themselves up with the last entry they posted on the subject, mostly because they started with scripture rather than a problem they could not solve.

]]> By: Sunniemom http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/20/roots-of-christian-education/#comment-132721 Sunniemom Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:34:15 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/20/roots-of-christian-education/#comment-132721 We are reading it differently, Dana. Probably because I have been reading other articles and comments on that site, and my perceptions are colored by what I have read. Especially the article about Jonathan Edwards. We are reading it differently, Dana. Probably because I have been reading other articles and comments on that site, and my perceptions are colored by what I have read. Especially the article about Jonathan Edwards.

]]> By: Dana http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/20/roots-of-christian-education/#comment-132418 Dana Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:57:57 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/20/roots-of-christian-education/#comment-132418 If they were actually saying that homeschooling is bad, I'd agree with you 100%. But it isn't their point, so I think we need to look a little more at what they are saying. I obviously cannot speak for them, but this is how I read the article. <em>How, pray tell, is homeschooling practiced today in Christianity? Inquiring minds want to know.</em> I do not quite understand your objection, but quite possibly I am reading this very differently than you are. They took great pains to note that they are not critical of homeschooling, so I don't see point two as an attack of any sort. They are merely responding to objections raised by their readers who felt that homeschooling is the only means for a Christian to educate a child. <em>Faulty assumption #245- that in order to homeschool, the parent personally does all the instructing. Rather, the parent can choose who and what and when and how their child’s education will occur. Of course, they often do most of the teaching/counseling/instructing. And this is a bad thing because….?</em> Actually, no, I don't think they've made a faulty assumption. They never said that to homeschool you have to do it all yourself. What they are advocating is that in order to fulfill our responsibilities as parents, we do not have to do it all ourselves. We can determine who and what and when and how our children's education can occur, including sending them to a good Christian school. The entry isn't about homeschooling. It is about how to educate a child, with homeschooling presented as one means. On the last point, I agree with you. I don't make major issues out of people sending their children to public school. It is something parents need to decide for themselves, but I do not really see a means of trying to give the choice based on scripture. If they were actually saying that homeschooling is bad, I’d agree with you 100%. But it isn’t their point, so I think we need to look a little more at what they are saying. I obviously cannot speak for them, but this is how I read the article.

How, pray tell, is homeschooling practiced today in Christianity? Inquiring minds want to know.

I do not quite understand your objection, but quite possibly I am reading this very differently than you are. They took great pains to note that they are not critical of homeschooling, so I don’t see point two as an attack of any sort. They are merely responding to objections raised by their readers who felt that homeschooling is the only means for a Christian to educate a child.

Faulty assumption #245- that in order to homeschool, the parent personally does all the instructing. Rather, the parent can choose who and what and when and how their child’s education will occur. Of course, they often do most of the teaching/counseling/instructing. And this is a bad thing because….?

Actually, no, I don’t think they’ve made a faulty assumption. They never said that to homeschool you have to do it all yourself. What they are advocating is that in order to fulfill our responsibilities as parents, we do not have to do it all ourselves. We can determine who and what and when and how our children’s education can occur, including sending them to a good Christian school. The entry isn’t about homeschooling. It is about how to educate a child, with homeschooling presented as one means.

On the last point, I agree with you. I don’t make major issues out of people sending their children to public school. It is something parents need to decide for themselves, but I do not really see a means of trying to give the choice based on scripture.

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