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		<title>By: Principled Discovery &#187; We&#8217;re from the DOE and we&#8217;re here to help</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/27/the-bill-is-effectively-dead-but-not-over/#comment-576843</link>
		<dc:creator>Principled Discovery &#187; We&#8217;re from the DOE and we&#8217;re here to help</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the Nashua Telegraph to actually report on the attendance at the hearing.  Here in Nebraska, we broke attendance records with five overflow rooms being opened to accommodate us.  But did the Lincoln Journal Star print [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the Nashua Telegraph to actually report on the attendance at the hearing.  Here in Nebraska, we broke attendance records with five overflow rooms being opened to accommodate us.  But did the Lincoln Journal Star print [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JavaBean</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/27/the-bill-is-effectively-dead-but-not-over/#comment-176486</link>
		<dc:creator>JavaBean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have loved to be in Lincoln for that debate, but schedule-wise it was not possible. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have loved to be in Lincoln for that debate, but schedule-wise it was not possible. <img src='http://principleddiscovery.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/27/the-bill-is-effectively-dead-but-not-over/#comment-174157</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 04:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately I believe we are missing the point. The real battle is not over the testing of students but the consolidation of control/power by certain interests both governmental and non-governmental.

Step back and consider the fact that this Nebraska Education Committee has no reasonable/logical or researched reason for this bill. It is just a feeling/hearsay piece of legislation that only strengthens said interests. This scenario has occurred in public schools for years.

Take for instance the NEA. The NEA is a labor organization, not an educational institute. It's only job is to protect and increase teacher jobs and salaries not the best educational interests of students. The educational system is declining in part because the NEA labor union exerts too much power over the system.

When legislation like LB 1141 is introduced by Liberal-Progressive politicians like Schimek, the Nebraska Education Board sees another opportunity to tighten it's control. This is another reason why the education systems are failing.

So in this case as with any social engineering system across the US you have progressive politicians eliminating sectors/competition and private organization supporting this reduction to further their base/interests. Whether in education or business opportunities are diminishing and the corporations/governments larger and more centralized than ever.

Consider Schimek and her husbands NEA connection. Consider the scenario with the Class I schools in Nebraska. 

It is my belief that the homeschooling bill is important to defeat but even more menacing is the attempt in Nebraska to remove Local School Boards and place the power of decisions into the hands of non-elected stooges. Have you researched this?

Here's a selection from the blog, "View from 1776" http://www.thomasbrewton.com, that raises some interesting topics.

"When the British North American colonists fought for their independence in 1776 and when they wrote the Constitution in 1787, equality meant equal economic opportunity, unfettered by government, to improve their lives and to pass along the fruit of their labors to their children and grandchildren. 

The focus was upon political and economic freedom.  Today the focus is upon imagined and undeserved rights to enjoy the fruits of others’ labors. 

Those rights exist only to the extent that government arbitrarily confiscates the property and freedoms of others and redistributes them in the name of social justice.  In short, rights, as opposed to liberties, cannot exist outside government that is to some degree tyrannical.

Today’s doctrine - liberal-progressive-socialism - is what Hilaire Belloc called The Servile State.  Today’s educational focus is what Friedrich Hayek called The Road to Serfdom."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately I believe we are missing the point. The real battle is not over the testing of students but the consolidation of control/power by certain interests both governmental and non-governmental.</p>
<p>Step back and consider the fact that this Nebraska Education Committee has no reasonable/logical or researched reason for this bill. It is just a feeling/hearsay piece of legislation that only strengthens said interests. This scenario has occurred in public schools for years.</p>
<p>Take for instance the NEA. The NEA is a labor organization, not an educational institute. It&#8217;s only job is to protect and increase teacher jobs and salaries not the best educational interests of students. The educational system is declining in part because the NEA labor union exerts too much power over the system.</p>
<p>When legislation like LB 1141 is introduced by Liberal-Progressive politicians like Schimek, the Nebraska Education Board sees another opportunity to tighten it&#8217;s control. This is another reason why the education systems are failing.</p>
<p>So in this case as with any social engineering system across the US you have progressive politicians eliminating sectors/competition and private organization supporting this reduction to further their base/interests. Whether in education or business opportunities are diminishing and the corporations/governments larger and more centralized than ever.</p>
<p>Consider Schimek and her husbands NEA connection. Consider the scenario with the Class I schools in Nebraska. </p>
<p>It is my belief that the homeschooling bill is important to defeat but even more menacing is the attempt in Nebraska to remove Local School Boards and place the power of decisions into the hands of non-elected stooges. Have you researched this?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a selection from the blog, &#8220;View from 1776&#8243; <a href="http://www.thomasbrewton.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.thomasbrewton.com</a>, that raises some interesting topics.</p>
<p>&#8220;When the British North American colonists fought for their independence in 1776 and when they wrote the Constitution in 1787, equality meant equal economic opportunity, unfettered by government, to improve their lives and to pass along the fruit of their labors to their children and grandchildren. </p>
<p>The focus was upon political and economic freedom.  Today the focus is upon imagined and undeserved rights to enjoy the fruits of others’ labors. </p>
<p>Those rights exist only to the extent that government arbitrarily confiscates the property and freedoms of others and redistributes them in the name of social justice.  In short, rights, as opposed to liberties, cannot exist outside government that is to some degree tyrannical.</p>
<p>Today’s doctrine - liberal-progressive-socialism - is what Hilaire Belloc called The Servile State.  Today’s educational focus is what Friedrich Hayek called The Road to Serfdom.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Edmisten</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/27/the-bill-is-effectively-dead-but-not-over/#comment-173837</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Edmisten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dana, 
Thanks so much for your work and all your reporting. I agree that there's a fundamental problem that has to be addressed for the legislature to see that this bill is unnecessary.  The "teach/memorize/pass a test" model of education is not the only way -- and certainly  not the best way -- to teach. Until they can see that, they'll fail to see what's wrong with testing and oversight. 

One other thing I mentioned in a letter to one of the senators is that assessment is easy for homeschoolers. We assess our children daily. No test result would surprise me, as I know exactly where they're weak and where they're strong.  

And, high student-teacher ratios, which are a fact of life in public schools, require more standardized assessments, because teachers are only human and need the data in black-and-white to adequately track and follow-up on the progress of their many students.  In a homeschool environment that is simply not the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana,<br />
Thanks so much for your work and all your reporting. I agree that there&#8217;s a fundamental problem that has to be addressed for the legislature to see that this bill is unnecessary.  The &#8220;teach/memorize/pass a test&#8221; model of education is not the only way &#8212; and certainly  not the best way &#8212; to teach. Until they can see that, they&#8217;ll fail to see what&#8217;s wrong with testing and oversight. </p>
<p>One other thing I mentioned in a letter to one of the senators is that assessment is easy for homeschoolers. We assess our children daily. No test result would surprise me, as I know exactly where they&#8217;re weak and where they&#8217;re strong.  </p>
<p>And, high student-teacher ratios, which are a fact of life in public schools, require more standardized assessments, because teachers are only human and need the data in black-and-white to adequately track and follow-up on the progress of their many students.  In a homeschool environment that is simply not the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>General consensus is, that won't happen.  Each legislator was allowed to put a priority tag on a bill they wanted to have debated before this short session ends, and this bill lacks that tag.

Given its general support, however, it really does look like we will be revisiting this in the fall.  

I have a few things to say yet to the education committee.  : )  They kept asking a question that really was never answered, which is really what I was trying to get across in my written testimony.  I want to revise and refocus that to hopefully address the fundamental difference between homeschools and the public school and why testing can be detrimental, even in a superior homeschool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>General consensus is, that won&#8217;t happen.  Each legislator was allowed to put a priority tag on a bill they wanted to have debated before this short session ends, and this bill lacks that tag.</p>
<p>Given its general support, however, it really does look like we will be revisiting this in the fall.  </p>
<p>I have a few things to say yet to the education committee.  : )  They kept asking a question that really was never answered, which is really what I was trying to get across in my written testimony.  I want to revise and refocus that to hopefully address the fundamental difference between homeschools and the public school and why testing can be detrimental, even in a superior homeschool.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ Ross</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/02/27/the-bill-is-effectively-dead-but-not-over/#comment-173275</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the unpleasant possibility of it being amended onto a train bill, something that WILL pass and running down the well-greased tracks at the end of session?  That's what tends to happen here --</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the unpleasant possibility of it being amended onto a train bill, something that WILL pass and running down the well-greased tracks at the end of session?  That&#8217;s what tends to happen here &#8211;</p>
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