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	<title>Comments on: HNW&#8211;Broken Education News</title>
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	<description>If the foundations be destroyed, what shall the righteous do? --Psalm 11:3</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/03/08/hnw-broken-education-news/#comment-233461</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some reason, two of the links weren't working, but I fixed them.</description>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/03/08/hnw-broken-education-news/#comment-233428</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to whether or not it was effective, that depends.  From his statement, it appears so, and he also doesn't appear bitter, so I'll leave that up to his family as to whether or not public humiliation was effective and appropriate.

It is something I don't personally like, but at the same time, it would have been public on a much more traumatic level had he suffered the natural consequences for such dangerous behavior.

I feel more sorry for the kid in the other video.  I don't know the particulars, but a personal apology to the teacher and possibly to the class would have possibly been a better place to start if this is not a pattern of behavior.  

Consequences are supposed to be as small as possible to still have an effect.  After all, what is this mother going to do tomorrow when the kid does the exact same thing?  He is a kid, and no matter the size of the consequence, it won't change something that is a habit and his reasoning won't grow any because of it.  Small and consistent consequences are better for that.

I hope we don't get a rash of people trying to top each other in unreasonably public discipline for the media attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to whether or not it was effective, that depends.  From his statement, it appears so, and he also doesn&#8217;t appear bitter, so I&#8217;ll leave that up to his family as to whether or not public humiliation was effective and appropriate.</p>
<p>It is something I don&#8217;t personally like, but at the same time, it would have been public on a much more traumatic level had he suffered the natural consequences for such dangerous behavior.</p>
<p>I feel more sorry for the kid in the other video.  I don&#8217;t know the particulars, but a personal apology to the teacher and possibly to the class would have possibly been a better place to start if this is not a pattern of behavior.  </p>
<p>Consequences are supposed to be as small as possible to still have an effect.  After all, what is this mother going to do tomorrow when the kid does the exact same thing?  He is a kid, and no matter the size of the consequence, it won&#8217;t change something that is a habit and his reasoning won&#8217;t grow any because of it.  Small and consistent consequences are better for that.</p>
<p>I hope we don&#8217;t get a rash of people trying to top each other in unreasonably public discipline for the media attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/03/08/hnw-broken-education-news/#comment-233352</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just clicked into the story of the teen driving 100 mph... I think this mom got the idea from &lt;a href="http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9ea_1202351033" rel="nofollow"&gt;this mom&lt;/a&gt;. 

But, do you think this is effective? If my teenager was caught driving 100 mph, it would be an eternity before he or she got to drive again. You only get freedoms you can be responsible for. Driving 100 mph is not responsible; therefore, you are not free to drive. When you are 18, you can try driving again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just clicked into the story of the teen driving 100 mph&#8230; I think this mom got the idea from <a href="http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9ea_1202351033" rel="nofollow">this mom</a>. </p>
<p>But, do you think this is effective? If my teenager was caught driving 100 mph, it would be an eternity before he or she got to drive again. You only get freedoms you can be responsible for. Driving 100 mph is not responsible; therefore, you are not free to drive. When you are 18, you can try driving again.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawna</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/03/08/hnw-broken-education-news/#comment-226355</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 03:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Montessori story is just priceless; hilarious!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Montessori story is just priceless; hilarious!</p>
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		<title>By: Sunniemom</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/03/08/hnw-broken-education-news/#comment-225638</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunniemom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah- I should've put the word 'news' in quotation marks. But it so accurately reflects some folks' attitudes about educational methods. If it ain't sittin' at a desk with a workbook and a #2 pencil, it is suspect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah- I should&#8217;ve put the word &#8216;news&#8217; in quotation marks. But it so accurately reflects some folks&#8217; attitudes about educational methods. If it ain&#8217;t sittin&#8217; at a desk with a workbook and a #2 pencil, it is suspect.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/03/08/hnw-broken-education-news/#comment-225028</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 19:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, just found another one...I think someone read about that mom with selling her kid's car:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23475323</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, just found another one&#8230;I think someone read about that mom with selling her kid&#8217;s car:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23475323" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23475323</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/03/08/hnw-broken-education-news/#comment-224360</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to be clear:  The Egg Incident is from The Onion, a parody site.  Figure you know that, but you know...I don't want emails about it. : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to be clear:  The Egg Incident is from The Onion, a parody site.  Figure you know that, but you know&#8230;I don&#8217;t want emails about it. : )</p>
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		<title>By: Sunniemom</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/03/08/hnw-broken-education-news/#comment-224353</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunniemom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The Egg Incident" is absolutely the funniest thing I think I have ever read on a news website. And "Raising the Bar" is just priceless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Egg Incident&#8221; is absolutely the funniest thing I think I have ever read on a news website. And &#8220;Raising the Bar&#8221; is just priceless.</p>
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