Comments on: Abuse cases spur reform in Hawaii http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/03/12/abuse-cases-spur-reform-in-hawaii/ If the foundations be destroyed, what shall the righteous do? --Psalm 11:3 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:38:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Marn http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/03/12/abuse-cases-spur-reform-in-hawaii/#comment-255531 Marn Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:56:32 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/03/12/abuse-cases-spur-reform-in-hawaii/#comment-255531 Oh. what a sad story. :( THANKS for sharing this Dana and for dropping by my site, thank you!! Oh. what a sad story. :( THANKS for sharing this Dana and for dropping by my site, thank you!!

]]> By: Dana http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/03/12/abuse-cases-spur-reform-in-hawaii/#comment-248560 Dana Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:52:03 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/03/12/abuse-cases-spur-reform-in-hawaii/#comment-248560 Definitely. I wish we could get away from the "we have to do something" mentality and really assess what is going on. In many of these cases, there are existing problems that are not being addressed: lack of communication, lack of personnel, high turn over rates, lack of funding...all of it goes together really. Why can't we see what the real problems are and try to fix those rather than overburden a system that is already barely treading water? Definitely. I wish we could get away from the “we have to do something” mentality and really assess what is going on. In many of these cases, there are existing problems that are not being addressed: lack of communication, lack of personnel, high turn over rates, lack of funding…all of it goes together really. Why can’t we see what the real problems are and try to fix those rather than overburden a system that is already barely treading water?

]]> By: Anne http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/03/12/abuse-cases-spur-reform-in-hawaii/#comment-248218 Anne Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:54:43 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/03/12/abuse-cases-spur-reform-in-hawaii/#comment-248218 After this tragedy, the newspapers here reported that that the problem was that DHS did not have the funding to follow up with families like little Cyrus's who had been investigated. Then suddenly, there's a bill (3056) that would have the DHS following up on families who had been reported but had <i>not</i> been found to be abusive. Makes no sense, but that's politics, isn't it? After this tragedy, the newspapers here reported that that the problem was that DHS did not have the funding to follow up with families like little Cyrus’s who had been investigated. Then suddenly, there’s a bill (3056) that would have the DHS following up on families who had been reported but had not been found to be abusive. Makes no sense, but that’s politics, isn’t it?

]]> By: Dana http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/03/12/abuse-cases-spur-reform-in-hawaii/#comment-247157 Dana Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:14:46 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/03/12/abuse-cases-spur-reform-in-hawaii/#comment-247157 You're right...and in these cases, hindsight is 20/20. I always wonder how many cases there are that look similar where the state doesn't jump on it and nobody dies. No one seems particularly clear on what happened to get the boy in the hands of this Higa who apparently walked from the scene casually, smoking a cigarette. The same thing could have happened even if all were properly informed. Higa wasn't even part of the investigation. Just a nutty neighbor the mom says she never would have left her kid with. Of course, it looks like she left her son with her father without bothering to wake her father to tell him about it. Sad. You’re right…and in these cases, hindsight is 20/20. I always wonder how many cases there are that look similar where the state doesn’t jump on it and nobody dies. No one seems particularly clear on what happened to get the boy in the hands of this Higa who apparently walked from the scene casually, smoking a cigarette.

The same thing could have happened even if all were properly informed. Higa wasn’t even part of the investigation. Just a nutty neighbor the mom says she never would have left her kid with. Of course, it looks like she left her son with her father without bothering to wake her father to tell him about it.

Sad.

]]> By: Howard http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/03/12/abuse-cases-spur-reform-in-hawaii/#comment-247017 Howard Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:37:27 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/03/12/abuse-cases-spur-reform-in-hawaii/#comment-247017 The same people that complain Bush's policy of War in Iraq is really just a means to gain Federal powers over our lives are the same people that truly seek power to invade the homes of homes of innocent Americans using CPS. Typical bureaucrats attempting to gain more encroaching authority into the private lives of Americans. The Nanny state watching our children for us really is a means to make sure we tow the line of their worldview. The same people that complain Bush’s policy of War in Iraq is really just a means to gain Federal powers over our lives are the same people that truly seek power to invade the homes of homes of innocent Americans using CPS. Typical bureaucrats attempting to gain more encroaching authority into the private lives of Americans. The Nanny state watching our children for us really is a means to make sure we tow the line of their worldview.

]]> By: Life On The Planet http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/03/12/abuse-cases-spur-reform-in-hawaii/#comment-246905 Life On The Planet Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:37:33 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/03/12/abuse-cases-spur-reform-in-hawaii/#comment-246905 What bothers be most about this is that once again, because social services did not do their jobs in a timely and appropriate manner, new laws are having to be formed. Does the government really think that new laws will improve what goes on in Child Protective Services? Why not put that energy towards revising CPS, making certain staff members are qualified and properly trained, as well as not overburdened. "By last Thursday, the day of the murder, the case manager had not yet visited the family." Imagine. What bothers be most about this is that once again, because social services did not do their jobs in a timely and appropriate manner, new laws are having to be formed. Does the government really think that new laws will improve what goes on in Child Protective Services? Why not put that energy towards revising CPS, making certain staff members are qualified and properly trained, as well as not overburdened.

“By last Thursday, the day of the murder, the case manager had not yet visited the family.”

Imagine.

]]> By: Charity http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/03/12/abuse-cases-spur-reform-in-hawaii/#comment-246797 Charity Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:11:54 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/03/12/abuse-cases-spur-reform-in-hawaii/#comment-246797 Well, it's been said, "Better that ten innocents suffer than that one guilty person escape." Oh, wait. I think that's supposed to be the other way around. When it comes to child abuse, the thought of even one guilty person escaping is hard to swallow, let alone ten. That kind of puts us in a tough position with the public when we try to exercise our parental rights. Well, it’s been said, “Better that ten innocents suffer than that one guilty person escape.”

Oh, wait. I think that’s supposed to be the other way around.

When it comes to child abuse, the thought of even one guilty person escaping is hard to swallow, let alone ten.

That kind of puts us in a tough position with the public when we try to exercise our parental rights.

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