Comments on: I agree with Rob Reich http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/07/i-agree-with-rob-reich/ If the foundations be destroyed, what shall the righteous do? --Psalm 11:3 Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:03:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: asha dutia http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/07/i-agree-with-rob-reich/#comment-981593 asha dutia Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:51:12 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/07/i-agree-with-rob-reich/#comment-981593 Dear Home School Students and Parent-Teachers, I have just listened to the debate on the Diane Rehm Show featuring Ms. Roe. and was very impressed with her worldview on home schooling. I thus decided to write in this blog. I am running a blog for a 23 year old Asian Indian girl undergoing treatment for blood cancer. I am using different approaches to help provide support as well as a healing environment for this person. The blog highlights cultural aspects in our community which might interest you. Perhaps you might consider this as part of your social studies curriculum and participate in it. I will be happy to post any of your photographs which will bring a lovely quality to our blog. You can make as many comments as you like and we will try and respond to them individually/collectively. Do give this idea a thought and get back to me. I will be very happy to answer any questions you might have. I have a Masters Degree in Family Therapy from the University of Oregon and work as a Family Therapist in Mumbai, India. Please check out our blog “life is in the little things”: http://lifeisinthelittlethings. Blogspot.com Your participation, I know will bring a whole new perspective on how to cope and feel hopeful in a global culture that we share these days. Thank you so much. Sincerely, Asha Dutia Dear Home School Students and Parent-Teachers, I have just listened to the debate on the Diane Rehm Show featuring Ms. Roe. and was very impressed with her worldview on home schooling. I thus decided to write in this blog.

I am running a blog for a 23 year old Asian Indian girl undergoing treatment for blood cancer. I am using different approaches to help provide support as well as a healing environment for this person. The blog highlights cultural aspects in our community which might interest you. Perhaps you might consider this as part of your social studies curriculum and participate in it. I will be happy to post any of your photographs which will bring a lovely quality to our blog. You can make as many comments as you like and we will try and respond to them individually/collectively. Do give this idea a thought and get back to me. I will be very happy to answer any questions you might have.

I have a Masters Degree in Family Therapy from the University of Oregon and work as a Family Therapist in Mumbai, India.

Please check out our blog “life is in the little things”:

http://lifeisinthelittlethings. Blogspot.com

Your participation, I know will bring a whole new perspective on how to cope and feel hopeful in a global culture that we share these days.

Thank you so much.

Sincerely,

Asha Dutia

]]> By: Dana Hanley http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/07/i-agree-with-rob-reich/#comment-496708 Dana Hanley Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:08:54 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/07/i-agree-with-rob-reich/#comment-496708 Great Society, yes...that has been around and is the stated goal of our public education system. You don't have to read very far to find that out. NWO? Not so much. I'm not really into that. :) Great Society, yes…that has been around and is the stated goal of our public education system. You don’t have to read very far to find that out. NWO? Not so much. I’m not really into that. :)

]]> By: Brian http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/07/i-agree-with-rob-reich/#comment-495217 Brian Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:49:16 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/07/i-agree-with-rob-reich/#comment-495217 Dana commented, "But I agree…I don’t think it has anything to do with the NWO." And as Elisheva has pointed out "I don’t believe the agenda is all that hidden." I agree with Elisheva's presentation of the "agenda" and I believe the "agenda" is not intentionally linked to the NWO, BUT it will most definitely help the process along. The vast majority of children are learning to be beholding, dependent on and compliant with the state and with society. This type of training will be a direct benefit to the NWO and necessary for it to exist. Is it "intentional" by the education establishment? It is probably not intentionaly by hard working caring teachers, but it is definitely intentional and calculated by the prince of this world. I would even go further to say that there are probably people out there who completely intend for this type of indoctrination to be a cornerstone of the new greater Society. Whether it is intentional or not, the "agenda" is still a great threat to homeschooling families. Kevin Swanson gives a great presentation of "Total Government" at <a href rel="nofollow"></a> Dana commented, “But I agree…I don’t think it has anything to do with the NWO.”

And as Elisheva has pointed out “I don’t believe the agenda is all that hidden.”

I agree with Elisheva’s presentation of the “agenda” and I believe the “agenda” is not intentionally linked to the NWO, BUT it will most definitely help the process along. The vast majority of children are learning to be beholding, dependent on and compliant with the state and with society. This type of training will be a direct benefit to the NWO and necessary for it to exist.

Is it “intentional” by the education establishment? It is probably not intentionaly by hard working caring teachers, but it is definitely intentional and calculated by the prince of this world. I would even go further to say that there are probably people out there who completely intend for this type of indoctrination to be a cornerstone of the new greater Society.

Whether it is intentional or not, the “agenda” is still a great threat to homeschooling families.

Kevin Swanson gives a great presentation of “Total Government” at

]]> By: Dana Hanley http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/07/i-agree-with-rob-reich/#comment-489439 Dana Hanley Wed, 09 Apr 2008 04:56:10 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/07/i-agree-with-rob-reich/#comment-489439 Very true. It was obvious enough in me ed courses. But that never quite makes it into the public discussion. Just parts of the argument make it out...like "socialization." It is all packages so neatly into something that sounds good if you don't take the time to think about it very long. Very true. It was obvious enough in me ed courses. But that never quite makes it into the public discussion. Just parts of the argument make it out…like “socialization.” It is all packages so neatly into something that sounds good if you don’t take the time to think about it very long.

]]> By: Elisheva Levin http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/07/i-agree-with-rob-reich/#comment-489117 Elisheva Levin Wed, 09 Apr 2008 04:10:00 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/07/i-agree-with-rob-reich/#comment-489117 I have some experience with the movers and shakers in education and I don't believe the agenda is all that hidden. Most graduate level educational professional (apart from teachers) really believe that 1) only professionals can teach a child, and 2) that their job is one part academics and three parts indoctrination of the child into the culture of the Society. There is a sense that the children must be separated from their parents, who would otherwise teach them all sorts of backwards and downright nefarious things. The focus is more and more on standardization, as Dana pointed out with respect to training, testing and curriculum, but also in terms of the thought and expression that is considered proper. There is even an idea of the standardization of the minds and behavior of the students, what I call "narrowing the normal" which identifies every difference and idiosyncrasy as a psychopathology that is potentially dangerous to the hive....oops, I mean Society. It is truly out in the open at the doctoral level. And very few argue with it. Those of us in special education, because our emphasis has been on individualized instruction, have seen more controversy, although there are those in our field who accept and love this overarching vision of the hive...oops, Society. It's all there and quite matter-of-factly, too. But no one much is pointing out that nasty elephant in the living room. Public schools, as John Taylor Gatto has pointed out so eloquently, are not intended to raise citizens for a free society. I have some experience with the movers and shakers in education and I don’t believe the agenda is all that hidden. Most graduate level educational professional (apart from teachers) really believe that 1) only professionals can teach a child, and 2) that their job is one part academics and three parts indoctrination of the child into the culture of the Society. There is a sense that the children must be separated from their parents, who would otherwise teach them all sorts of backwards and downright nefarious things. The focus is more and more on standardization, as Dana pointed out with respect to training, testing and curriculum, but also in terms of the thought and expression that is considered proper. There is even an idea of the standardization of the minds and behavior of the students, what I call “narrowing the normal” which identifies every difference and idiosyncrasy as a psychopathology that is potentially dangerous to the hive….oops, I mean Society.

It is truly out in the open at the doctoral level. And very few argue with it. Those of us in special education, because our emphasis has been on individualized instruction, have seen more controversy, although there are those in our field who accept and love this overarching vision of the hive…oops, Society.

It’s all there and quite matter-of-factly, too.
But no one much is pointing out that nasty elephant in the living room. Public schools, as John Taylor Gatto has pointed out so eloquently, are not intended to raise citizens for a free society.

]]> By: T F Stern http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/07/i-agree-with-rob-reich/#comment-488830 T F Stern Wed, 09 Apr 2008 03:32:53 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/07/i-agree-with-rob-reich/#comment-488830 “Each state must decide how to balance the rights of parents, the rights of children, and the interests of the state.” Exactly what are the interests of the state as pertaining to family issues? The state can become involved when a preponderance of evidence points to neglect or abuse; however it is past dangerous to cede any other implied interests in family matters to anyone other than the parents. The citizens around you may not agree or even approve of the methods used in terms of child rearing, religious beliefs or lack of them; however to intervene without real evidence of neglect or abuse destroys the sanctity of the family unit. “Each state must decide how to balance the rights of parents, the rights of children, and the interests of the state.”

Exactly what are the interests of the state as pertaining to family issues? The state can become involved when a preponderance of evidence points to neglect or abuse; however it is past dangerous to cede any other implied interests in family matters to anyone other than the parents. The citizens around you may not agree or even approve of the methods used in terms of child rearing, religious beliefs or lack of them; however to intervene without real evidence of neglect or abuse destroys the sanctity of the family unit.

]]> By: Dana http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/07/i-agree-with-rob-reich/#comment-488741 Dana Wed, 09 Apr 2008 03:20:43 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/07/i-agree-with-rob-reich/#comment-488741 Yikes...your comment is actually relevant to what I'm working on right now. Our legislature is at it again. But I agree...I don't think it has anything to do with the NWO. But I do believe there are groups who have their plans for education who know better than to be entirely open about what it is they want to achieve. I think that is why there is always such a push to put the power in the hands of a bureaucracy outside of the control of voters... But maybe I'm just a little suspicious. Yikes…your comment is actually relevant to what I’m working on right now. Our legislature is at it again. But I agree…I don’t think it has anything to do with the NWO. But I do believe there are groups who have their plans for education who know better than to be entirely open about what it is they want to achieve.

I think that is why there is always such a push to put the power in the hands of a bureaucracy outside of the control of voters…

But maybe I’m just a little suspicious.

]]> By: Crimson Wife http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/07/i-agree-with-rob-reich/#comment-487816 Crimson Wife Wed, 09 Apr 2008 00:59:52 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/07/i-agree-with-rob-reich/#comment-487816 Given that the government isn't doing such a hot job with the 85% of schoolchildren who already attend state-run schools, this push for increased regulation of the other 15% makes me suspicious about the real motivation. I'm not normally one to listen to conspiracy theories about the NWO and whatnot but I don't think we're getting the straight scoop about the government's real agenda when it comes to education... Given that the government isn’t doing such a hot job with the 85% of schoolchildren who already attend state-run schools, this push for increased regulation of the other 15% makes me suspicious about the real motivation. I’m not normally one to listen to conspiracy theories about the NWO and whatnot but I don’t think we’re getting the straight scoop about the government’s real agenda when it comes to education…

]]> By: Dana http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/07/i-agree-with-rob-reich/#comment-484811 Dana Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:55:02 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/07/i-agree-with-rob-reich/#comment-484811 That is because you just aren't "right thinking" enough. :) Which is a bonus in my book, but not for everyone. That is because you just aren’t “right thinking” enough. :) Which is a bonus in my book, but not for everyone.

]]> By: Summer http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/07/i-agree-with-rob-reich/#comment-484598 Summer Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:28:28 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/07/i-agree-with-rob-reich/#comment-484598 And here I thought the purpose of education was to teach children, not to mass market citizens for the government. And here I thought the purpose of education was to teach children, not to mass market citizens for the government.

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