Comments on: We’re from the DOE and we’re here to help http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/17/were-from-the-doe-and-were-here-to-help/ If the foundations be destroyed, what shall the righteous do? --Psalm 11:3 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:01:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: NH http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/17/were-from-the-doe-and-were-here-to-help/#comment-979643 NH Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:10:36 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/17/were-from-the-doe-and-were-here-to-help/#comment-979643 You can blame Senator Iris Estabrook for this. Even though she is not running again in 08, she recommends that the very dangerous Follow the Child program follow your child right into your home. It is a snoopy intrusive social engineering program. These Democrats at the statehouse in NH want to control every part of your life. Homeschool standards are much higher than NH standards I can tell you that! You can blame Senator Iris Estabrook for this. Even though she is not running again in 08, she recommends that the very dangerous Follow the Child program follow your child right into your home. It is a snoopy intrusive social engineering program.

These Democrats at the statehouse in NH want to control every part of your life. Homeschool standards are much higher than NH standards I can tell you that!

]]> By: Principled Discovery » NH to form commission to examine homeschool laws http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/17/were-from-the-doe-and-were-here-to-help/#comment-979624 Principled Discovery » NH to form commission to examine homeschool laws Thu, 10 Jul 2008 05:00:28 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/17/were-from-the-doe-and-were-here-to-help/#comment-979624 [...] New Hampshire have had a fight this year with their state legislature over a bill which would have required them to file a curriculum plan at the start of the year, a provision that had been in an earlier law but was dropped. The final [...] [...] New Hampshire have had a fight this year with their state legislature over a bill which would have required them to file a curriculum plan at the start of the year, a provision that had been in an earlier law but was dropped. The final [...]

]]> By: Dana Hanley http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/17/were-from-the-doe-and-were-here-to-help/#comment-600348 Dana Hanley Sun, 20 Apr 2008 04:41:18 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/17/were-from-the-doe-and-were-here-to-help/#comment-600348 "We talk; you listen." Yeah, you're probably right. More of a monologue. “We talk; you listen.”

Yeah, you’re probably right. More of a monologue.

]]> By: Summer http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/17/were-from-the-doe-and-were-here-to-help/#comment-600034 Summer Sun, 20 Apr 2008 04:07:58 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/17/were-from-the-doe-and-were-here-to-help/#comment-600034 It just doesn't sound like any dialogue to me. It just doesn’t sound like any dialogue to me.

]]> By: Charity http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/17/were-from-the-doe-and-were-here-to-help/#comment-583472 Charity Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:05:08 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/17/were-from-the-doe-and-were-here-to-help/#comment-583472 I am guessing NH is more like Vermont than Ohio. I <em>wish</em> I could submit a curriculum that short. We have to be painstakingly specific. And once, they told me I needed to be more specific because the curriculum I sent in (which was a word-for-word copy of the grade level expectations used by VT public schools) sounded - get this - <em>too hard</em> for a second grader. At least we have a law now that exempts us from the curriculum after three years. And now that the law has been in effect and nothing traumatic happened, the exemption comes after two years. We still have to assess at the end of the year, though (test, teacher assessment, or portfolio - fun!) I am guessing NH is more like Vermont than Ohio. I wish I could submit a curriculum that short. We have to be painstakingly specific.

And once, they told me I needed to be more specific because the curriculum I sent in (which was a word-for-word copy of the grade level expectations used by VT public schools) sounded - get this - too hard for a second grader.

At least we have a law now that exempts us from the curriculum after three years. And now that the law has been in effect and nothing traumatic happened, the exemption comes after two years.

We still have to assess at the end of the year, though (test, teacher assessment, or portfolio - fun!)

]]> By: Dana Hanley http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/17/were-from-the-doe-and-were-here-to-help/#comment-581539 Dana Hanley Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:10:26 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/17/were-from-the-doe-and-were-here-to-help/#comment-581539 Oh...and if a "dialogue" is the goal, why not <em>ask</em> homeschoolers what kind of legsislation would be helpful to them, and what kind of resources they need. Oh…and if a “dialogue” is the goal, why not ask homeschoolers what kind of legsislation would be helpful to them, and what kind of resources they need.

]]> By: Dana http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/17/were-from-the-doe-and-were-here-to-help/#comment-581529 Dana Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:08:10 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/17/were-from-the-doe-and-were-here-to-help/#comment-581529 Our State Board of Education was actually neutral on the legislation here. :) I hope that doesn't change now that the Commissioner has quit. Our State Board of Education was actually neutral on the legislation here. :) I hope that doesn’t change now that the Commissioner has quit.

]]> By: Dana http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/17/were-from-the-doe-and-were-here-to-help/#comment-581518 Dana Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:06:36 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/17/were-from-the-doe-and-were-here-to-help/#comment-581518 Yeah...we have to submit a scope and sequence. Also not "approved." But we don't have to submit our testing, so I don't really mind. Yeah…we have to submit a scope and sequence. Also not “approved.” But we don’t have to submit our testing, so I don’t really mind.

]]> By: Life On The Planet http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/17/were-from-the-doe-and-were-here-to-help/#comment-580430 Life On The Planet Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:10:18 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/17/were-from-the-doe-and-were-here-to-help/#comment-580430 Blah, Blah, Blah, Homeschoolers aren't certified and therefore idiotic parents out to ruin their children, Blah, Blah, Blah. I've heard all this before, and it hasn't improved with the retelling. With politicians and DOE types, it doesn't seem to matter if they are northern or southern. The accent is always the same! Blah, Blah, Blah, Homeschoolers aren’t certified and therefore idiotic parents out to ruin their children, Blah, Blah, Blah.

I’ve heard all this before, and it hasn’t improved with the retelling.

With politicians and DOE types, it doesn’t seem to matter if they are northern or southern. The accent is always the same!

]]> By: Sunniemom http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/17/were-from-the-doe-and-were-here-to-help/#comment-580215 Sunniemom Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:48:04 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/04/17/were-from-the-doe-and-were-here-to-help/#comment-580215 <i>The proposed bill would require parents, prior to starting a homeschool program, to outline their plans for implementing their curriculum.</i> We have to do this in Ohio- submit a curriculum outline and list of resources 'for informational purposes only'. My list looks like this: Math- Saxon Language Arts- internet and library History- internet and library Science- internet and library Health- internet and library Phys Ed- internet and library (one of these days I am just going to include a pic of our tree fort) Now they have all the information I have. Wouldn't it be cool if we could submit it with one of those Mission Impossible gadgets that makes the whole thing self-destruct after they read it? Anyway, I thought the whole "let's have a dialogue" and "we want to be part of the conversation" was a disingenuous way to say that they are going to use the police power of gov't to butt in and interrupt. Anyone who wants to have a dialogue with home educators can read articles and blogs and forums online, attend support group meetings, and check some books out at the library. But that just wouldn't be as much fun for them as taking a legislative crowbar and breaking in. The proposed bill would require parents, prior to starting a homeschool program, to outline their plans for implementing their curriculum.
We have to do this in Ohio- submit a curriculum outline and list of resources ‘for informational purposes only’. My list looks like this:

Math- Saxon
Language Arts- internet and library
History- internet and library
Science- internet and library
Health- internet and library
Phys Ed- internet and library (one of these days I am just going to include a pic of our tree fort)

Now they have all the information I have. Wouldn’t it be cool if we could submit it with one of those Mission Impossible gadgets that makes the whole thing self-destruct after they read it?

Anyway, I thought the whole “let’s have a dialogue” and “we want to be part of the conversation” was a disingenuous way to say that they are going to use the police power of gov’t to butt in and interrupt. Anyone who wants to have a dialogue with home educators can read articles and blogs and forums online, attend support group meetings, and check some books out at the library. But that just wouldn’t be as much fun for them as taking a legislative crowbar and breaking in.

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