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	<description>If the foundations be destroyed, what shall the righteous do? --Psalm 11:3</description>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 14:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;...there has to be an understanding of what love is. &lt;/em&gt;

Very true.  It is easy to get caught up in.  I used to think it had to do with working parents who substituted "yes" for the time they couldn't spend with their children.  And it might be part of it.  But we all want "more" for our children.  We want them to have what we couldn't have and to have things easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8230;there has to be an understanding of what love is. </em></p>
<p>Very true.  It is easy to get caught up in.  I used to think it had to do with working parents who substituted &#8220;yes&#8221; for the time they couldn&#8217;t spend with their children.  And it might be part of it.  But we all want &#8220;more&#8221; for our children.  We want them to have what we couldn&#8217;t have and to have things easier.</p>
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		<title>By: Renae</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/05/15/marketing-our-youth/#comment-933611</link>
		<dc:creator>Renae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 14:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, Dana. I agree. Love is enough, but there has to be an understanding of what love is. It's not giving kids stuff to make them happy. 

Parents can love their kids and still be clueless about the influence of the media. Many time I think parents must be duped as well. Otherwise, why would they allow their girls to dress like prostitutes?

And it isn't just public school kids lured in to the rebellion. I've seen homeschoolers fall prey to the game, too. I couldn't understand it, until I realized how much television they watched after they finished their workbooks.

We will continue limiting television, because the "feedback loop" is even in little children's cartoons. Ack! It is impossible to escape from, but teaching children their value will give them strength. They will know they don't need anything to make them cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, Dana. I agree. Love is enough, but there has to be an understanding of what love is. It&#8217;s not giving kids stuff to make them happy. </p>
<p>Parents can love their kids and still be clueless about the influence of the media. Many time I think parents must be duped as well. Otherwise, why would they allow their girls to dress like prostitutes?</p>
<p>And it isn&#8217;t just public school kids lured in to the rebellion. I&#8217;ve seen homeschoolers fall prey to the game, too. I couldn&#8217;t understand it, until I realized how much television they watched after they finished their workbooks.</p>
<p>We will continue limiting television, because the &#8220;feedback loop&#8221; is even in little children&#8217;s cartoons. Ack! It is impossible to escape from, but teaching children their value will give them strength. They will know they don&#8217;t need anything to make them cool.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 12:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So which would he shout in capital letters that Shakespeare must be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So which would he shout in capital letters that Shakespeare must be?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/05/15/marketing-our-youth/#comment-933604</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 12:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How have we came to this? So non-nonchalant about the topic of child exploitation!!! 

Simply too explain it away without discernment or rational is mind boggling until I remembered this little gem from the mind of CS Lewi. 

----Or if the meal were eggs he would recall to them that they were eating the menstruum of a verminous fowl, and crack a few  jokes with the female prisoner. So he went on day by day. Then I dreamed one day there was nothing but milk for them, and the jailer said as he put down the pipkin:

"Our relations with the cow are not delicate-as you can easily see if you imagine eating any of her other secretions."

Now John had been in the pit a shorter time than any of the others; and at these words something seemed to snap in his head and he gave a great sigh and suddenly spoke out in a loud, clear voice:

"Thank heaven! Now at last I know that you are talking nonsense."

What do you mean?" said the "jailer, wheeling around upon him.

"YOU ARE TRYING TO PRETEND THAT UNLIKE THINGS ARE LIKE. YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE US THINK THAT MILK IS THE SAME SORT OF THING AS SWEAT OR DUNG."

"And pray, what difference is there except by custom?"

"ARE YOU A LIAR OR ONLY A FOOL, THAT YOU SEE NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT WHICH NATURE CASTS OUT AS REFUSE AND THAT WHICH SHE STORES UP AS FOOD?"

"So nature is a person, then, with purposes and consciousness," said the jailer with a sneer. "In fact a Landlady. No doubt it comforts you to imagine you can believe that sort of thing," and he turned to leave the prison with his nose in the air.

"I know nothing about that," shouted John after him, "I AM TALKING OF WHAT HAPPENS. MILK DOES FEED CALVES AND DUNG DOES NOT."

Pilgrims Regress, CS Lewis Pg 48-49, Book III, Chapter VIII 'Parrot Diease'</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How have we came to this? So non-nonchalant about the topic of child exploitation!!! </p>
<p>Simply too explain it away without discernment or rational is mind boggling until I remembered this little gem from the mind of CS Lewi. </p>
<p>&#8212;-Or if the meal were eggs he would recall to them that they were eating the menstruum of a verminous fowl, and crack a few  jokes with the female prisoner. So he went on day by day. Then I dreamed one day there was nothing but milk for them, and the jailer said as he put down the pipkin:</p>
<p>&#8220;Our relations with the cow are not delicate-as you can easily see if you imagine eating any of her other secretions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now John had been in the pit a shorter time than any of the others; and at these words something seemed to snap in his head and he gave a great sigh and suddenly spoke out in a loud, clear voice:</p>
<p>&#8220;Thank heaven! Now at last I know that you are talking nonsense.&#8221;</p>
<p>What do you mean?&#8221; said the &#8220;jailer, wheeling around upon him.</p>
<p>&#8220;YOU ARE TRYING TO PRETEND THAT UNLIKE THINGS ARE LIKE. YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE US THINK THAT MILK IS THE SAME SORT OF THING AS SWEAT OR DUNG.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;And pray, what difference is there except by custom?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;ARE YOU A LIAR OR ONLY A FOOL, THAT YOU SEE NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT WHICH NATURE CASTS OUT AS REFUSE AND THAT WHICH SHE STORES UP AS FOOD?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;So nature is a person, then, with purposes and consciousness,&#8221; said the jailer with a sneer. &#8220;In fact a Landlady. No doubt it comforts you to imagine you can believe that sort of thing,&#8221; and he turned to leave the prison with his nose in the air.</p>
<p>&#8220;I know nothing about that,&#8221; shouted John after him, &#8220;I AM TALKING OF WHAT HAPPENS. MILK DOES FEED CALVES AND DUNG DOES NOT.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pilgrims Regress, CS Lewis Pg 48-49, Book III, Chapter VIII &#8216;Parrot Diease&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 05:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah.  Isn't it though?  Although I disagree slightly.  There is enough love.  Just turn the stuff off and limit its influence.  I really do think that if you cultivate a love and appreciation for that which is good, there is a light shone upon that which is not.

I'm not talking about complete isolation, but making sure that marketers are not spending more time with your child than you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah.  Isn&#8217;t it though?  Although I disagree slightly.  There is enough love.  Just turn the stuff off and limit its influence.  I really do think that if you cultivate a love and appreciation for that which is good, there is a light shone upon that which is not.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not talking about complete isolation, but making sure that marketers are not spending more time with your child than you are.</p>
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		<title>By: Renae</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/05/15/marketing-our-youth/#comment-931768</link>
		<dc:creator>Renae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 03:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm sure you caught this quote from MTV's program director, but isn't it telling and a bit scary? &lt;blockquote&gt;I can't help but be worried that we are throwing so much at young adults so fast. And that there is no amount of preparation or education or even love that you could give a child to be ready.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure you caught this quote from MTV&#8217;s program director, but isn&#8217;t it telling and a bit scary?<br />
<blockquote>I can&#8217;t help but be worried that we are throwing so much at young adults so fast. And that there is no amount of preparation or education or even love that you could give a child to be ready.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Dana Hanley</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/05/15/marketing-our-youth/#comment-928833</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana Hanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skirts on piano legs.  Hmm...I was just thinking our piano looked a little risqué.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skirts on piano legs.  Hmm&#8230;I was just thinking our piano looked a little risqué.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ Ross</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/05/15/marketing-our-youth/#comment-928302</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Theatre is an object lesson in why we just can't have concerned community members fencing away everything that anyone objects to everyone's kids seeing, saying, doing or knowing about --
&lt;a href="http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2007/08/10/school-theatre-and-citizen-censorship/" rel="nofollow"&gt;"School Theatre and Citizen Censorship"&lt;/a&gt;

My kids dance too, where they've learned some lessons about&lt;a href="http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/nudes-and-prudes/" rel="nofollow"&gt;"Nudes and Prudes"&lt;/a&gt; in the real world . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theatre is an object lesson in why we just can&#8217;t have concerned community members fencing away everything that anyone objects to everyone&#8217;s kids seeing, saying, doing or knowing about &#8211;<br />
<a href="http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2007/08/10/school-theatre-and-citizen-censorship/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;School Theatre and Citizen Censorship&#8221;</a></p>
<p>My kids dance too, where they&#8217;ve learned some lessons about<a href="http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/nudes-and-prudes/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Nudes and Prudes&#8221;</a> in the real world . . .</p>
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		<title>By: JJ Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Please forgive the clumsy typos all -- Zeffirelli, Michelangelo.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Please forgive the clumsy typos all &#8212; Zeffirelli, Michelangelo.)</p>
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		<title>By: JJ Ross</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/05/15/marketing-our-youth/#comment-928110</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL Peter, do you mean to sound like all was lost when the Victorians stopped putting those little skirts on the piano legs?   Long before GWTW and Zefferelli, America's gates were wide open to Shakespeare (both in word and depiction) -- not to mention Michaelangelo's David and paintings by Botticelli and Rubens, and the Canterbury Tales and oh, wait, a good many sacred writings too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL Peter, do you mean to sound like all was lost when the Victorians stopped putting those little skirts on the piano legs?   Long before GWTW and Zefferelli, America&#8217;s gates were wide open to Shakespeare (both in word and depiction) &#8212; not to mention Michaelangelo&#8217;s David and paintings by Botticelli and Rubens, and the Canterbury Tales and oh, wait, a good many sacred writings too.</p>
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