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		<title>By: Jeanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My situation is a bit more unusual.  Gas currently is about 15% of our budget - we live about 20 miles from anything.  But I plan to increase our activities this coming school year, because my children have been stuck at home with very limited outings for the last 3 years.  In 2005, my husband was out of work and I was pregnant with twins.  In 2006, I had newborn twins - 'nuff said!  In 2007, I began teaching every day part-time at a charter school, not realizing that this meant basically no activities for my dc.  The only way I would change my plans and stay home more would be if there was absolutely no way we could possibly afford to drive anywhere.  We are all tired of being home all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My situation is a bit more unusual.  Gas currently is about 15% of our budget - we live about 20 miles from anything.  But I plan to increase our activities this coming school year, because my children have been stuck at home with very limited outings for the last 3 years.  In 2005, my husband was out of work and I was pregnant with twins.  In 2006, I had newborn twins - &#8217;nuff said!  In 2007, I began teaching every day part-time at a charter school, not realizing that this meant basically no activities for my dc.  The only way I would change my plans and stay home more would be if there was absolutely no way we could possibly afford to drive anywhere.  We are all tired of being home all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See...I traveled a lot and enjoyed it.  I love Yellowstone and those kinds of places but there isn't much like it around here.  But the kids don't care one way or the other.  We'll be taking our nets down to the lake quite a bit...if we get our bikes fixed we could almost ride down.  But the baby isn't quite big enough for the bike carrier yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See&#8230;I traveled a lot and enjoyed it.  I love Yellowstone and those kinds of places but there isn&#8217;t much like it around here.  But the kids don&#8217;t care one way or the other.  We&#8217;ll be taking our nets down to the lake quite a bit&#8230;if we get our bikes fixed we could almost ride down.  But the baby isn&#8217;t quite big enough for the bike carrier yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunniemom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunniemom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel quite fortunate in that we live so centrally to everything we do. Two miles from where dh works, 1-1/2 miles to the library and bank, 2-1/2 miles to the grocery store, WalMart, Target, mall, Sam's Club, Meijer... and 8 miles to church. Oh, and 3 miles to McDonald's. :D

I remember though, when I was a kid, we lived in the sticks near Huntington WV, and my dad worked at Ashland Oil in KY. I think it took him over an hour to drive to work.

We didn't take vacations or go out to eat when I was a kid, and as a family now we have never taken an 'out-of-town' vacation. I don't miss it, maybe because it was never a part of my life? We do day trips here and there, but other than going to weddings, funerals, reunions... we  don't travel long distances. If we get farther than 45 minutes from home, the kids start asking how long before we get back. Our favorite thing to do for vacation is to unplug the phone and live incommunicado for a couple of days. Very restful. And cheap. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel quite fortunate in that we live so centrally to everything we do. Two miles from where dh works, 1-1/2 miles to the library and bank, 2-1/2 miles to the grocery store, WalMart, Target, mall, Sam&#8217;s Club, Meijer&#8230; and 8 miles to church. Oh, and 3 miles to McDonald&#8217;s. <img src='http://principleddiscovery.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I remember though, when I was a kid, we lived in the sticks near Huntington WV, and my dad worked at Ashland Oil in KY. I think it took him over an hour to drive to work.</p>
<p>We didn&#8217;t take vacations or go out to eat when I was a kid, and as a family now we have never taken an &#8216;out-of-town&#8217; vacation. I don&#8217;t miss it, maybe because it was never a part of my life? We do day trips here and there, but other than going to weddings, funerals, reunions&#8230; we  don&#8217;t travel long distances. If we get farther than 45 minutes from home, the kids start asking how long before we get back. Our favorite thing to do for vacation is to unplug the phone and live incommunicado for a couple of days. Very restful. And cheap. <img src='http://principleddiscovery.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: JJ Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Dana, for unfurrowing my brow.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dana, for unfurrowing my brow.  <img src='http://principleddiscovery.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunniemom, that is where it has effected us most.  We are trying to save for a basement.  Six people in 900 square feet is a little cramped.  Not that it is a "need," but it sure would be nice. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunniemom, that is where it has effected us most.  We are trying to save for a basement.  Six people in 900 square feet is a little cramped.  Not that it is a &#8220;need,&#8221; but it sure would be nice. <img src='http://principleddiscovery.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't have any economic woes...that is just how it is being portrayed consistently.  I just adopted the public meme. :)

There are effects on homeschooling and there isn't really any way around that.  Whether or not it effects your attitude toward homeschooling or anything is a different matter entirely.

I was mostly interested in how things have effected people's homeschooling plans and what adjustments are being made.  "Education" is a pretty top priority among homeschoolers and it is an easy area to justify extra expenditures that are not really necessary.  

I guess I don't see "woe is me."  Just people sharing how things are affecting them.  

&lt;em&gt;so I am confused about why gas prices would be a homeschooling issue but not an unschooling issue?&lt;/em&gt;

Sorry, I was unclear what I was responding to.  When you stated "our power of story unschooling these days is pretty much the opposite of 'woe is me'" I took it to mean that you attributed your attitude specifically to unschooling.

That is why I responded that I didn't see that as an unschooling issue, but just one of general attitude and how we respond to challenges.  I'm not an unschooler, and am not stuck on the negatives.  Just curious what effects it all is having and if it has reached the point of having an effect.

We are in a unique situation living 120 miles from where my husband works, so I don't know that gas prices necessarily effects everyone's budget quite to the level it does us.  But recognizing that isn't the same as feeling sorry for myself over the whole thing.  

I think there are huge benefits to be reaped by this minor stress on budgets.  It forces people to re-evaluate their values, and it is forcing corporations to re-evaluate their needs to see if maybe employees might be able to work from home more.

That can only be good.  We don't need to be so focused on consumption and trying to find fulfillment and contentment outside ourselves.

After all, I read an interesting book about a group of people whose contentment shone through enough to have a significant effect on the lives around them...a group of Christians in a N. Korean prison camp.

We carry our contentment or lack thereof into every situation.  It is internal, not external.  But in our consumption driven economy, we tend to focus on the external.  "If I only had....then I'd be happy."  But I doubt that changes no matter how high the gas prices go.  Too many people see a middle class lifestyle as their right rather than something they have earned.  There is not much appreciation for the incredible wealth we have.

Like Nance mentioned, "And, really, anyone who is getting any sort of vacation or travel this year is doing better than a lot of people."

But really, the amount this affects our daily lives and expenditures shows just how well off we are as a country.  Cars, fuel, etc., are simply taken for granted and we don't think about it all that often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have any economic woes&#8230;that is just how it is being portrayed consistently.  I just adopted the public meme. <img src='http://principleddiscovery.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>There are effects on homeschooling and there isn&#8217;t really any way around that.  Whether or not it effects your attitude toward homeschooling or anything is a different matter entirely.</p>
<p>I was mostly interested in how things have effected people&#8217;s homeschooling plans and what adjustments are being made.  &#8220;Education&#8221; is a pretty top priority among homeschoolers and it is an easy area to justify extra expenditures that are not really necessary.  </p>
<p>I guess I don&#8217;t see &#8220;woe is me.&#8221;  Just people sharing how things are affecting them.  </p>
<p><em>so I am confused about why gas prices would be a homeschooling issue but not an unschooling issue?</em></p>
<p>Sorry, I was unclear what I was responding to.  When you stated &#8220;our power of story unschooling these days is pretty much the opposite of &#8216;woe is me&#8217;&#8221; I took it to mean that you attributed your attitude specifically to unschooling.</p>
<p>That is why I responded that I didn&#8217;t see that as an unschooling issue, but just one of general attitude and how we respond to challenges.  I&#8217;m not an unschooler, and am not stuck on the negatives.  Just curious what effects it all is having and if it has reached the point of having an effect.</p>
<p>We are in a unique situation living 120 miles from where my husband works, so I don&#8217;t know that gas prices necessarily effects everyone&#8217;s budget quite to the level it does us.  But recognizing that isn&#8217;t the same as feeling sorry for myself over the whole thing.  </p>
<p>I think there are huge benefits to be reaped by this minor stress on budgets.  It forces people to re-evaluate their values, and it is forcing corporations to re-evaluate their needs to see if maybe employees might be able to work from home more.</p>
<p>That can only be good.  We don&#8217;t need to be so focused on consumption and trying to find fulfillment and contentment outside ourselves.</p>
<p>After all, I read an interesting book about a group of people whose contentment shone through enough to have a significant effect on the lives around them&#8230;a group of Christians in a N. Korean prison camp.</p>
<p>We carry our contentment or lack thereof into every situation.  It is internal, not external.  But in our consumption driven economy, we tend to focus on the external.  &#8220;If I only had&#8230;.then I&#8217;d be happy.&#8221;  But I doubt that changes no matter how high the gas prices go.  Too many people see a middle class lifestyle as their right rather than something they have earned.  There is not much appreciation for the incredible wealth we have.</p>
<p>Like Nance mentioned, &#8220;And, really, anyone who is getting any sort of vacation or travel this year is doing better than a lot of people.&#8221;</p>
<p>But really, the amount this affects our daily lives and expenditures shows just how well off we are as a country.  Cars, fuel, etc., are simply taken for granted and we don&#8217;t think about it all that often.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunniemom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunniemom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As homeschoolers, the taxpaying property owners in our areas are not footing the bill for the extra field trips and activities that we engage in, so gas prices &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; have an affect on the ability of home educators to continue in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed, regardless of what educational method one might choose.

One way gas prices &lt;i&gt;might&lt;/i&gt; affect us is that I am saving for a new computer, and it may take me longer to do so as we stretch our budget to accommodate necessary travel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As homeschoolers, the taxpaying property owners in our areas are not footing the bill for the extra field trips and activities that we engage in, so gas prices <i>can</i> have an affect on the ability of home educators to continue in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed, regardless of what educational method one might choose.</p>
<p>One way gas prices <i>might</i> affect us is that I am saving for a new computer, and it may take me longer to do so as we stretch our budget to accommodate necessary travel.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm from me too -- I did see and appreciate the positive emphasis at the close of the original post, but most of the comments do sound more "woe is me" -- seeing more challenge opportunity -- which is why I decided to comment and draw that distinction in the way I respond to gas prices.  But maybe I just failed to  understand all this cutback, stay home, hard times talk the way it was meant?

And the headline is "Economic Woes and Homeschooling" so I (surprisingly?) thought that what this discussion is about, the current economic effects on our own home-educating, if any? 

Dana said, "I don’t see it as an unschooling issue" but "unschooling" is simply how we homeschool -- our family's way of learning at home -- so I am confused about why gas prices would be a homeschooling issue but not an unschooling issue? Again, maybe I'm misunderstanding but if so, I'll need some help seeing where.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm from me too &#8212; I did see and appreciate the positive emphasis at the close of the original post, but most of the comments do sound more &#8220;woe is me&#8221; &#8212; seeing more challenge opportunity &#8212; which is why I decided to comment and draw that distinction in the way I respond to gas prices.  But maybe I just failed to  understand all this cutback, stay home, hard times talk the way it was meant?</p>
<p>And the headline is &#8220;Economic Woes and Homeschooling&#8221; so I (surprisingly?) thought that what this discussion is about, the current economic effects on our own home-educating, if any? </p>
<p>Dana said, &#8220;I don’t see it as an unschooling issue&#8221; but &#8220;unschooling&#8221; is simply how we homeschool &#8212; our family&#8217;s way of learning at home &#8212; so I am confused about why gas prices would be a homeschooling issue but not an unschooling issue? Again, maybe I&#8217;m misunderstanding but if so, I&#8217;ll need some help seeing where.  <img src='http://principleddiscovery.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm....I'm not a woe is me kind of person, nor was this a "woe is me" kind of entry.  Everything presents both challenges and opportunities, which is why I closed with the positive of increased time together at home.

I don't see it as an unschooling issue.  Just whether or not you choose to be controlled by your environment or choose to take control of your response to changing conditions.

"Homeschooling" will not be affected any, nor with our children suffer any as a result of a few things being cut.  I was really looking forward to our weekend trips, and now we are looking forward to trips to our backyard.  Not quite the same, but sufficient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;.I&#8217;m not a woe is me kind of person, nor was this a &#8220;woe is me&#8221; kind of entry.  Everything presents both challenges and opportunities, which is why I closed with the positive of increased time together at home.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see it as an unschooling issue.  Just whether or not you choose to be controlled by your environment or choose to take control of your response to changing conditions.</p>
<p>&#8220;Homeschooling&#8221; will not be affected any, nor with our children suffer any as a result of a few things being cut.  I was really looking forward to our weekend trips, and now we are looking forward to trips to our backyard.  Not quite the same, but sufficient.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting -- our power of story unschooling these days is pretty much the opposite of "woe is me" no matter what the price of gas is doing!

Dana, my comment got long and wandered into power of story and sense of community, so &lt;a href="http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2008/06/03/do-gas-prices-define-hard-times-for-homeschooling/" rel="nofollow"&gt;I'm posting it at Snook&lt;/a&gt; -- with art!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting &#8212; our power of story unschooling these days is pretty much the opposite of &#8220;woe is me&#8221; no matter what the price of gas is doing!</p>
<p>Dana, my comment got long and wandered into power of story and sense of community, so <a href="http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2008/06/03/do-gas-prices-define-hard-times-for-homeschooling/" rel="nofollow">I&#8217;m posting it at Snook</a> &#8212; with art!</p>
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