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	<title>Comments on: Homeschooled boy killed in tornado at Boy Scout camp</title>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nance Confer said, &lt;i&gt;&quot;wouldn’t they have been safer in their homes?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Then if the tornado destroyed their home you would of said they would of been safer at camp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nance Confer said, <i>&#8220;wouldn’t they have been safer in their homes?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Then if the tornado destroyed their home you would of said they would of been safer at camp.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Tiel Howard&#039;s post summed up my feelings as a Tornado Alley resident living in IL and as someone fascinated by weather. Iowa and Nebraska&#039;s severe weather season usually peaks in May and is winding down by June. Frequent severe weather outbreaks have generally shifted farther north into the Dakotas and Minnesota by June, but as we&#039;ve seen Iowa and Nebraska aren&#039;t completely immune at this time of the year by any means.

Tragically, tornadoes sometimes take the lives of people who do everything they&#039;re supposed to do when they&#039;re in a tornado&#039;s path. The Scouts and their leaders did the best they could with the available structures, but the sad reality is that one of the cabins took a direct hit. Unfortunately, we seem to have a tendency in our society to have to find blame whenever something happens and not accept that things happen that we just really can&#039;t control and that aren&#039;t the result of someone&#039;s negligence or maliciousness.

I&#039;ve been trying to find out more about each of the four boys. After reading about how selfless they all were and how much they gave to others, I&#039;ve really been inspired by each one of them. I&#039;ve been particularly impressed by the strong faith each one of them had. It&#039;s amazing how much we adults could stand to learn from kids. 

My thoughts and prayers will continue to be with their families.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Tiel Howard&#8217;s post summed up my feelings as a Tornado Alley resident living in IL and as someone fascinated by weather. Iowa and Nebraska&#8217;s severe weather season usually peaks in May and is winding down by June. Frequent severe weather outbreaks have generally shifted farther north into the Dakotas and Minnesota by June, but as we&#8217;ve seen Iowa and Nebraska aren&#8217;t completely immune at this time of the year by any means.</p>
<p>Tragically, tornadoes sometimes take the lives of people who do everything they&#8217;re supposed to do when they&#8217;re in a tornado&#8217;s path. The Scouts and their leaders did the best they could with the available structures, but the sad reality is that one of the cabins took a direct hit. Unfortunately, we seem to have a tendency in our society to have to find blame whenever something happens and not accept that things happen that we just really can&#8217;t control and that aren&#8217;t the result of someone&#8217;s negligence or maliciousness.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to find out more about each of the four boys. After reading about how selfless they all were and how much they gave to others, I&#8217;ve really been inspired by each one of them. I&#8217;ve been particularly impressed by the strong faith each one of them had. It&#8217;s amazing how much we adults could stand to learn from kids. </p>
<p>My thoughts and prayers will continue to be with their families.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot about that.  The shark thing was about 2002, right?  Or did it last longer?  I only remember because it started while we were still in TX, not far from South Padre Island.  It was nutty, but if I remember correctly, there were no more shark attacks than normal.  It was just the only thing that seemed to be going on to report in the news.

And interestingly, the most prominent attack I remember which I think is the one that set it off had to do with that boy who was attacked and the father dragged the shark ashore and killed it.  But they were doing what &quot;everyone&quot; should know not to do...playing in waste deep water in the evening.  Exactly where and when most shark attacks occur.

Tornadoes fascinate me.  In 32 years of living in tornado alley (two years I was elsewhere), I&#039;ve only been close to one.  It cleared a path from the school which it destroyed to our house which it jumped over, landing a few houses down where it pushed somebody&#039;s garage back the way it had come, crossed the street and began leveling everything again.  But there was no way to see it.  The sky was pitch black and the rain was falling in sheets.  My husband saw the trees twist on themselves, but that is where he got smart and returned to the basement.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot about that.  The shark thing was about 2002, right?  Or did it last longer?  I only remember because it started while we were still in TX, not far from South Padre Island.  It was nutty, but if I remember correctly, there were no more shark attacks than normal.  It was just the only thing that seemed to be going on to report in the news.</p>
<p>And interestingly, the most prominent attack I remember which I think is the one that set it off had to do with that boy who was attacked and the father dragged the shark ashore and killed it.  But they were doing what &#8220;everyone&#8221; should know not to do&#8230;playing in waste deep water in the evening.  Exactly where and when most shark attacks occur.</p>
<p>Tornadoes fascinate me.  In 32 years of living in tornado alley (two years I was elsewhere), I&#8217;ve only been close to one.  It cleared a path from the school which it destroyed to our house which it jumped over, landing a few houses down where it pushed somebody&#8217;s garage back the way it had come, crossed the street and began leveling everything again.  But there was no way to see it.  The sky was pitch black and the rain was falling in sheets.  My husband saw the trees twist on themselves, but that is where he got smart and returned to the basement.  <img src='http://principleddiscovery.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JJ Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 02:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, the truncated sentence was &quot;like they were working together.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, the truncated sentence was &#8220;like they were working together.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JJ Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 02:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hurricanes of course, come with tornados scattered throughout. There&#039;s no home or shelter safe enough.

And don&#039;t forget we had what looked like a shark conspiracy down here a couple of years ago. Seriously, like ing together! The news announcers would say gravely to local sheriffs or marine biologists or whoever they were interviewing, &quot;So these attacks must be connected, how is your investigation going?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hurricanes of course, come with tornados scattered throughout. There&#8217;s no home or shelter safe enough.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t forget we had what looked like a shark conspiracy down here a couple of years ago. Seriously, like ing together! The news announcers would say gravely to local sheriffs or marine biologists or whoever they were interviewing, &#8220;So these attacks must be connected, how is your investigation going?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Life On The Planet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Life On The Planet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give me a good ole hurricane any day! Tornados and earthquakes give me the jeebies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give me a good ole hurricane any day! Tornados and earthquakes give me the jeebies.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ Ross</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/06/13/homeschooled-boy-killed-in-tornado-at-boy-scout-camp/comment-page-1/#comment-978649</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Dana&#039;s point about &quot;acts of God&quot; in insurance policies -- I forgot about that, interesting in this context!  I guess they use that phrase to mean &quot;nature&quot; and to distinguish weather events from accidents and intentional events like crimes and acts of war?  so hmmm, I wonder if there&#039;s ever been legal establishment of whether insurance companies categorize acts of nature as undesigned or designed, planned or not?  

(If their lawyers are smart, they won&#039;t have ever asked that particular question!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Dana&#8217;s point about &#8220;acts of God&#8221; in insurance policies &#8212; I forgot about that, interesting in this context!  I guess they use that phrase to mean &#8220;nature&#8221; and to distinguish weather events from accidents and intentional events like crimes and acts of war?  so hmmm, I wonder if there&#8217;s ever been legal establishment of whether insurance companies categorize acts of nature as undesigned or designed, planned or not?  </p>
<p>(If their lawyers are smart, they won&#8217;t have ever asked that particular question!)</p>
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		<title>By: Sunniemom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunniemom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto that on living in tornado country. I went to college with a girl from Brazil, and she felt the same way about alligators. Yeah, yeah, yeah- so the croc ate the dog- what else is new?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto that on living in tornado country. I went to college with a girl from Brazil, and she felt the same way about alligators. Yeah, yeah, yeah- so the croc ate the dog- what else is new?</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just curious what exactly you would advocate doing differently.  We are under almost constant thunderstorm watches and warnings this time of year every year.  But deaths are actually quite rare.  The campground and the nearly 100 families involved never considered that this would be a likely occurrence.  It isn&#039;t foreseeable.  The minute they knew about a tornado in the area, they took cover.  It just happened to be minutes before the tornado came, and the tornado happened to hit where they were at.

Half the boys came from Omaha which was under flash flood warnings at the time.  Maybe they were statistically safer in a campground on in the hills, I don&#039;t know.  But growing up here, I don&#039;t know anyone who doesn&#039;t have a healthy respect for the weather.  Nor do I know anyone who has canceled a camping trip because of the weather the week before.  It changes too fast, and we just don&#039;t know what is going to happen until it does.

It is easy to say that this or that should have happened, or that this or that should have been foreseeable.  But I don&#039;t think it was.  And I&#039;m a little hesitant to force regulations on every campground in America for an event that occurs so rarely.  Statistically, the children were in much more danger on America&#039;s highways en route to the campground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just curious what exactly you would advocate doing differently.  We are under almost constant thunderstorm watches and warnings this time of year every year.  But deaths are actually quite rare.  The campground and the nearly 100 families involved never considered that this would be a likely occurrence.  It isn&#8217;t foreseeable.  The minute they knew about a tornado in the area, they took cover.  It just happened to be minutes before the tornado came, and the tornado happened to hit where they were at.</p>
<p>Half the boys came from Omaha which was under flash flood warnings at the time.  Maybe they were statistically safer in a campground on in the hills, I don&#8217;t know.  But growing up here, I don&#8217;t know anyone who doesn&#8217;t have a healthy respect for the weather.  Nor do I know anyone who has canceled a camping trip because of the weather the week before.  It changes too fast, and we just don&#8217;t know what is going to happen until it does.</p>
<p>It is easy to say that this or that should have happened, or that this or that should have been foreseeable.  But I don&#8217;t think it was.  And I&#8217;m a little hesitant to force regulations on every campground in America for an event that occurs so rarely.  Statistically, the children were in much more danger on America&#8217;s highways en route to the campground.</p>
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		<title>By: Nance Confer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nance Confer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Insurance company logic isn&#039;t a real favorite here either. :)

Thanks for the insight into living in tornado country. 

Interesting where we all draw the lines at what feels safe and like enough prep and how we justify things to ourselves.

All very interesting.

Nance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Insurance company logic isn&#8217;t a real favorite here either. <img src='http://principleddiscovery.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for the insight into living in tornado country. </p>
<p>Interesting where we all draw the lines at what feels safe and like enough prep and how we justify things to ourselves.</p>
<p>All very interesting.</p>
<p>Nance</p>
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