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	<title>Comments on: How Does Homeschooling Benefit Society, show notes</title>
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		<title>By: sprittibee</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/07/08/how-does-homeschooling-benefit-society-show-notes/#comment-980747</link>
		<dc:creator>sprittibee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm snagging your graphic so I can link you on Sprittibee. Keep up the good work, Dana! I've been so busy, sorry I haven't been there to be of more help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m snagging your graphic so I can link you on Sprittibee. Keep up the good work, Dana! I&#8217;ve been so busy, sorry I haven&#8217;t been there to be of more help.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that came up in the discussion on the forum with regards to libraries which I thought interesting was how when libraries promote themselves, they are wanting the public to become supporters of the public library system and not necessarily patrons.  

I thought it was an interesting distinction.  And really, shouldn't we be looking for the same thing?  Supporters of homeschooling, but not necessarily a nation solely of homeschoolers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that came up in the discussion on the forum with regards to libraries which I thought interesting was how when libraries promote themselves, they are wanting the public to become supporters of the public library system and not necessarily patrons.  </p>
<p>I thought it was an interesting distinction.  And really, shouldn&#8217;t we be looking for the same thing?  Supporters of homeschooling, but not necessarily a nation solely of homeschoolers?</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't see the library system quite the same as the public education system.  You are right that it is a tax dollar suppported system, but public school resources are not drained by homeschooling regardless of how much we use the libraries.  

I thought she made an interesting point about how homeschoolers, who tend to research the kinds of books they want for their children since they are using them for their education, are asking for books that other families are finding useful.  Meaning that the costs that are being imposed on the system are beneficial to all families using the library, not specifically homeschoolers. 

Mrs. C, I agree.  I think a bit much is made of the conflict.  Some of that, like you say, is just the way media tends to take extreme views and pit them against each other.  And it is a phenomenon of the internet as well.  Controversy garners more traffic and links. But I think it has something to do with that independent nature of many homeschoolers, perhaps especially among the "old guard."  It still amazes me to think of how strong your convictions must be to face school districts, officers, court and potentially prison for home schooling.  Those who chose to homeschool in those days had to be a little more committed to the thought that public schools were damaging to even try something different.  

We are all also very affected by our own experiences.  Sometimes I feel a little out of the loop having had a positive public school experience.

I do think their are definite problems with the system, but that is not meant to criticize the people in the system trying to do the best they can in a faulty system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see the library system quite the same as the public education system.  You are right that it is a tax dollar suppported system, but public school resources are not drained by homeschooling regardless of how much we use the libraries.  </p>
<p>I thought she made an interesting point about how homeschoolers, who tend to research the kinds of books they want for their children since they are using them for their education, are asking for books that other families are finding useful.  Meaning that the costs that are being imposed on the system are beneficial to all families using the library, not specifically homeschoolers. </p>
<p>Mrs. C, I agree.  I think a bit much is made of the conflict.  Some of that, like you say, is just the way media tends to take extreme views and pit them against each other.  And it is a phenomenon of the internet as well.  Controversy garners more traffic and links. But I think it has something to do with that independent nature of many homeschoolers, perhaps especially among the &#8220;old guard.&#8221;  It still amazes me to think of how strong your convictions must be to face school districts, officers, court and potentially prison for home schooling.  Those who chose to homeschool in those days had to be a little more committed to the thought that public schools were damaging to even try something different.  </p>
<p>We are all also very affected by our own experiences.  Sometimes I feel a little out of the loop having had a positive public school experience.</p>
<p>I do think their are definite problems with the system, but that is not meant to criticize the people in the system trying to do the best they can in a faulty system.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of the old days -- :D

Terri and I among so many wonderful homeschool parent thinkers, were working on this back in 2002, as shown in this NHEN forum discussion full of provocative ideas Dana might want to include now. 

I titled it &lt;a href="http://www.nhen.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=118" rel="nofollow"&gt;"Homeschooling Changing Schools Instead of Other Way Around?"&lt;/a&gt; and the whole theme was how to show that HS benefits society when schooling becomes more like home education, and it would hurt society for School to regulate home education into being more like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of the old days &#8212; <img src='http://principleddiscovery.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Terri and I among so many wonderful homeschool parent thinkers, were working on this back in 2002, as shown in this NHEN forum discussion full of provocative ideas Dana might want to include now. </p>
<p>I titled it <a href="http://www.nhen.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=118" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Homeschooling Changing Schools Instead of Other Way Around?&#8221;</a> and the whole theme was how to show that HS benefits society when schooling becomes more like home education, and it would hurt society for School to regulate home education into being more like it.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to create a problem but Terri's first and second thoughts conflict.  Apart from the fact that many homeschool families do indeed use and benefit from some public school services one way or another (which blunts the financial savings to the public suggested in #1) the public library system is tax-supported too and we're using the heck out of it.  So once you set up the proposition that homeschooling using or not using public services should be looked at as a financial plus or minus to society, well, #1 and #2 cancel each other out.

I know what she's getting at though. We just have to work on it, think it through more clearly. Btw Nance and I had many such evolving discussions with Terri herself, back before any of us had worked through our own home education ideas enough to proclaim global principles like this.  (We're all from Florida and like most states, our hsers are of many different POVs.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to create a problem but Terri&#8217;s first and second thoughts conflict.  Apart from the fact that many homeschool families do indeed use and benefit from some public school services one way or another (which blunts the financial savings to the public suggested in #1) the public library system is tax-supported too and we&#8217;re using the heck out of it.  So once you set up the proposition that homeschooling using or not using public services should be looked at as a financial plus or minus to society, well, #1 and #2 cancel each other out.</p>
<p>I know what she&#8217;s getting at though. We just have to work on it, think it through more clearly. Btw Nance and I had many such evolving discussions with Terri herself, back before any of us had worked through our own home education ideas enough to proclaim global principles like this.  (We&#8217;re all from Florida and like most states, our hsers are of many different POVs.)</p>
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		<title>By: Life On The Planet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Life On The Planet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan thinks you are right, Mrs. C! I am definitely a cat person, but this one is just nuts!

Coming from a family of public school teachers, I have gotten nothing but help and encouragement. The teachers in the family have been on the front lines, and they know the pitfalls of public education in the U.S. They want better for my children.

I think that the media does go out of its way to publicize the battle between the extreme elements in both camps. I can't blame them. It sells.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan thinks you are right, Mrs. C! I am definitely a cat person, but this one is just nuts!</p>
<p>Coming from a family of public school teachers, I have gotten nothing but help and encouragement. The teachers in the family have been on the front lines, and they know the pitfalls of public education in the U.S. They want better for my children.</p>
<p>I think that the media does go out of its way to publicize the battle between the extreme elements in both camps. I can&#8217;t blame them. It sells.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing about the show that I thought was interesting was this idea that we shouldn't be so strident about our opinions on homeschooling, but be more "professional" in our demeanour about it.  I think there's a real tension even within the homeschool community about "how to feel about public schools."  Are they the Great Satan or our best friends? 

I have two older children in public school and like anything else, there are some things I love and hate about it.  I'm not "anti" public ed. in *theory.*  But when I look at statements from folks in the NEA and from teachers, social workers or others in the media about how we ought to be forced to give our children up to the professionals or be otherwise monitored, I feel like war has been declared.  Then again, media has that annoying tendency of quoting the most "strident" from either side of an issue because it makes good copy.

:]

I think you did a good job with a difficult situation on the internet connection!  And I learned I don't really want to ask to adopt Susan's cat from your test show LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing about the show that I thought was interesting was this idea that we shouldn&#8217;t be so strident about our opinions on homeschooling, but be more &#8220;professional&#8221; in our demeanour about it.  I think there&#8217;s a real tension even within the homeschool community about &#8220;how to feel about public schools.&#8221;  Are they the Great Satan or our best friends? </p>
<p>I have two older children in public school and like anything else, there are some things I love and hate about it.  I&#8217;m not &#8220;anti&#8221; public ed. in *theory.*  But when I look at statements from folks in the NEA and from teachers, social workers or others in the media about how we ought to be forced to give our children up to the professionals or be otherwise monitored, I feel like war has been declared.  Then again, media has that annoying tendency of quoting the most &#8220;strident&#8221; from either side of an issue because it makes good copy.</p>
<p>:]</p>
<p>I think you did a good job with a difficult situation on the internet connection!  And I learned I don&#8217;t really want to ask to adopt Susan&#8217;s cat from your test show LOL!</p>
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