Comments on: The family alone is not sufficient for children… http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/12/08/the-family-alone-is-not-sufficient-for-children/ If the foundations be destroyed, what shall the righteous do? --Psalm 11:3 Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:53:02 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Schmidheiny Rudolf http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/12/08/the-family-alone-is-not-sufficient-for-children/comment-page-1/#comment-1036037 Schmidheiny Rudolf Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:08:52 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/?p=1118#comment-1036037 Dear readers The real problem here is not, as one could think, the administrators nor the politicians. The real problems are the people who have adopted - partially under the cover of christianity - a believe-system that allows the state to play God. So it is normal, that children and parents have to bow to this powerful God. The secular humanist credo is to believe in atheistic humanity, their god is the transcended human being which comes forth as an untouchable, holy, not to be disagreed with statist, totalitarian, atheistic governmnetal system. The Swiss Parental Forum was founded to defend the sate-preceeding, natural parental rights. We will welcome thoughtful support more than powerful americanism - which in the past has caused heavy problems to our neighbours in Germany. Dear readers
The real problem here is not, as one could think, the administrators nor the politicians. The real problems are the people who have adopted – partially under the cover of christianity – a believe-system that allows the state to play God. So it is normal, that children and parents have to bow to this powerful God. The secular humanist credo is to believe in atheistic humanity, their god is the transcended human being which comes forth as an untouchable, holy, not to be disagreed with statist, totalitarian, atheistic governmnetal system.

The Swiss Parental Forum was founded to defend the sate-preceeding, natural parental rights. We will welcome thoughtful support more than powerful americanism – which in the past has caused heavy problems to our neighbours in Germany.

]]> By: JJ Ross http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/12/08/the-family-alone-is-not-sufficient-for-children/comment-page-1/#comment-1035869 JJ Ross Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:38:34 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/?p=1118#comment-1035869 You surely don't believe that HSLDA itself isn't pushing a (frighteningly authoritarian and paternalistic!) world view and a certain politicized view of the family and human rights and the subservient role of women and children, and the threatening role of science and progress and individual human achievement, not to mention everything from reproductive choice to school choice to democratic choice, all its own? You surely don’t believe that HSLDA itself isn’t pushing a (frighteningly authoritarian and paternalistic!) world view and a certain politicized view of the family and human rights and the subservient role of women and children, and the threatening role of science and progress and individual human achievement, not to mention everything from reproductive choice to school choice to democratic choice, all its own?

]]> By: JJ Ross http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/12/08/the-family-alone-is-not-sufficient-for-children/comment-page-1/#comment-1035867 JJ Ross Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:34:33 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/?p=1118#comment-1035867 Oh my Karen! -- so who will be vigilant enough then, to help guard and defend the rights of parents to educate their own children, against the HSLDA Way??? Oh my Karen! — so who will be vigilant enough then, to help guard and defend the rights of parents to educate their own children, against the HSLDA Way???

]]> By: Karen http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/12/08/the-family-alone-is-not-sufficient-for-children/comment-page-1/#comment-1035374 Karen Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:10:14 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/?p=1118#comment-1035374 This is the trend that will happen here in the US if we're not vigilant. While the state says that parents have certain responsibilities they also are the ones who decide how those responsibilities should be fulfilled, so that eventually all will be conformed to the world view that the state promotes. We should all be thankful for groups like HSLDA who help guard and defend the rights of parents to educate their own children. This is the trend that will happen here in the US if we’re not vigilant. While the state says that parents have certain responsibilities they also are the ones who decide how those responsibilities should be fulfilled, so that eventually all will be conformed to the world view that the state promotes. We should all be thankful for groups like HSLDA who help guard and defend the rights of parents to educate their own children.

]]> By: Dana http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/12/08/the-family-alone-is-not-sufficient-for-children/comment-page-1/#comment-1033838 Dana Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:17:40 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/?p=1118#comment-1033838 Somehow, I bet if even every American homeschooler boycotted Swiss products, it wouldn't have much effect. I wish there were something that could be done, but hopefully the families there in Switzerland will be able to work together to support one another. I always wonder that when I read those kinds of statements, Mel. But there is such a misperception about what it is we are even doing. Most of the homeschoolers I know are more independent than their ps counterparts. I think the support at home is important to developing independence. Somehow, I bet if even every American homeschooler boycotted Swiss products, it wouldn’t have much effect. I wish there were something that could be done, but hopefully the families there in Switzerland will be able to work together to support one another.

I always wonder that when I read those kinds of statements, Mel. But there is such a misperception about what it is we are even doing. Most of the homeschoolers I know are more independent than their ps counterparts. I think the support at home is important to developing independence.

]]> By: Luke Holzmann http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/12/08/the-family-alone-is-not-sufficient-for-children/comment-page-1/#comment-1033835 Luke Holzmann Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:15:29 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/?p=1118#comment-1033835 Ugh. People. It blows my mind that "experts" can be so misinformed. ...actually, I take that back. I'm not surprised at all that "experts" who have completely detached their myopic studies from real life come to these inane conclusions. This is certainly a flaw of our increased "specialization" without integration or application. ~Luke Ugh. People. It blows my mind that “experts” can be so misinformed.

…actually, I take that back. I’m not surprised at all that “experts” who have completely detached their myopic studies from real life come to these inane conclusions. This is certainly a flaw of our increased “specialization” without integration or application.

~Luke

]]> By: The family alone is not sufficient for children… » Learning Freely Network http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/12/08/the-family-alone-is-not-sufficient-for-children/comment-page-1/#comment-1033831 The family alone is not sufficient for children… » Learning Freely Network Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:11:46 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/?p=1118#comment-1033831 [...] More of the story…   « Privatunterricht: Familien drohen mit Ungehorsam |   [...] [...] More of the story…   « Privatunterricht: Familien drohen mit Ungehorsam |   [...]

]]> By: Life On The Planet http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/12/08/the-family-alone-is-not-sufficient-for-children/comment-page-1/#comment-1033829 Life On The Planet Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:00:55 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/?p=1118#comment-1033829 Poor Swiss. Oh, heck. Does this mean we have to boycott Toblerone? I can live without Subway, Cheetos and The View, but no Toblerone might be a problem. :) Poor Swiss.

Oh, heck. Does this mean we have to boycott Toblerone? I can live without Subway, Cheetos and The View, but no Toblerone might be a problem. :)

]]> By: Mel http://principleddiscovery.com/2008/12/08/the-family-alone-is-not-sufficient-for-children/comment-page-1/#comment-1033803 Mel Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:40:17 +0000 http://principleddiscovery.com/?p=1118#comment-1033803 I am betting this "expert" has no children!!! Thanks for the article!! I am betting this “expert” has no children!!! Thanks for the article!!

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