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	<title>Comments on: State sex ed program prompts appeal to European Court of Human Rights</title>
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	<description>If the foundations be destroyed, what shall the righteous do? --Psalm 11:3</description>
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		<title>By: Nance Confer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nance Confer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 14:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These may be the very sort of parents who don&#039;t want their children questioning anything an adult/authority figure tells them to do.

If so, of course they find that message offensive. 

I hope their kids get a chance to hear it and get an inkling that they are allowed to think for themselves. Perhaps the very reason their parents don&#039;t want them to get that chance.

Nance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These may be the very sort of parents who don&#8217;t want their children questioning anything an adult/authority figure tells them to do.</p>
<p>If so, of course they find that message offensive. </p>
<p>I hope their kids get a chance to hear it and get an inkling that they are allowed to think for themselves. Perhaps the very reason their parents don&#8217;t want them to get that chance.</p>
<p>Nance</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 15:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And statements like these bother me:

&lt;em&gt;&quot;These types of cases are crucial battles in the effort to keep bad decisions overseas from being relied upon by activists who attack parental rights in America,&quot; he warned. &lt;/em&gt;

It isn&#039;t all about us.  Europe is Europe and it certainly affects us in some ways.  But meddling in their laws isn&#039;t exactly the way to go about stopping that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And statements like these bother me:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;These types of cases are crucial battles in the effort to keep bad decisions overseas from being relied upon by activists who attack parental rights in America,&#8221; he warned. </em></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t all about us.  Europe is Europe and it certainly affects us in some ways.  But meddling in their laws isn&#8217;t exactly the way to go about stopping that.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 15:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, that is a good explanation of what the yes no feelings are about.

And I agree about Germany being a different country.  But this case is starting to gain a bit of attention and most of the people reading about it don&#039;t really have access to information beyond what is being reported.  I&#039;m not a particularly &quot;neutral observer&quot; but I don&#039;t see it as indoctrination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that is a good explanation of what the yes no feelings are about.</p>
<p>And I agree about Germany being a different country.  But this case is starting to gain a bit of attention and most of the people reading about it don&#8217;t really have access to information beyond what is being reported.  I&#8217;m not a particularly &#8220;neutral observer&#8221; but I don&#8217;t see it as indoctrination.</p>
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		<title>By: ChristineMM</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChristineMM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 14:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dana I think you have misinterpreted the &#039;yes and no feelings&#039;. What they are talking about is the entire topic of the excellent book by Gavin deBecker in which he explains that &#039;in our gut&#039; we have an instinct feeling that often is correct. That is for example, that an adult may feel that something is not right with a person. A child can feel this too. Or as deBecker says, often adults train children to ignore these messages to the point where some adults cannot even &#039;feel&#039; them. This is how a kid may not feel comfortable sitting on an uncle&#039;s lap yet some parents say &#039;oh it is uncle, you have to sit there&#039;.

They are trying to get kids to listen to their gut feelings to stay away from the people who creep them out. 

I agree that parents should teach this stuff. Yet even the most reponsible ones are not teaching it. They think, &quot;the child is too young&quot; or &quot;this is not relevant to them&quot;. Yet all the time kids get sexually abused by people. The stats are scary because most times it is a person the parents know and trust (coach, neighbor, relative, minor aged cousin etc.).

Stats also say age 3 is the age that sex abuse starts happening, it is some popular age for some reason (grosses me out to even ponder).

The sad sad fact is that parents who love their kids don&#039;t always teach them what they need to know. This is the mindset that then schools should step in and teach what THEY think is right.

I don&#039;t get too upset about what goes on in Germany as it is clearly a very different country than America with a whole other viewpoing. THere is almost no point in even thinking about what they do unless it is to illustrate why America is better in our eyes and what we need to look for to fight to keep our freedoms (and not turn into Germany or any other European country).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana I think you have misinterpreted the &#8216;yes and no feelings&#8217;. What they are talking about is the entire topic of the excellent book by Gavin deBecker in which he explains that &#8216;in our gut&#8217; we have an instinct feeling that often is correct. That is for example, that an adult may feel that something is not right with a person. A child can feel this too. Or as deBecker says, often adults train children to ignore these messages to the point where some adults cannot even &#8216;feel&#8217; them. This is how a kid may not feel comfortable sitting on an uncle&#8217;s lap yet some parents say &#8216;oh it is uncle, you have to sit there&#8217;.</p>
<p>They are trying to get kids to listen to their gut feelings to stay away from the people who creep them out. </p>
<p>I agree that parents should teach this stuff. Yet even the most reponsible ones are not teaching it. They think, &#8220;the child is too young&#8221; or &#8220;this is not relevant to them&#8221;. Yet all the time kids get sexually abused by people. The stats are scary because most times it is a person the parents know and trust (coach, neighbor, relative, minor aged cousin etc.).</p>
<p>Stats also say age 3 is the age that sex abuse starts happening, it is some popular age for some reason (grosses me out to even ponder).</p>
<p>The sad sad fact is that parents who love their kids don&#8217;t always teach them what they need to know. This is the mindset that then schools should step in and teach what THEY think is right.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get too upset about what goes on in Germany as it is clearly a very different country than America with a whole other viewpoing. THere is almost no point in even thinking about what they do unless it is to illustrate why America is better in our eyes and what we need to look for to fight to keep our freedoms (and not turn into Germany or any other European country).</p>
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