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		<title>By: Sebastian (a lady)</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2009/07/04/fireworks-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-1093345</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian (a lady)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 09:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Which everyone signs and everyone knows is a lie.&quot;

This is the issue that I have with arrangements under which many fireworks are sold.  I don&#039;t think that there should be laws that create contempt for the law.  Either let fireworks be legal (perhaps with a signed waiver filed stating that the buyer assumes all responsibility for the proper use of them) or if they are so dangerous that their use is illegal, then the sale (and the states profit from the sales) should not be allowed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Which everyone signs and everyone knows is a lie.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the issue that I have with arrangements under which many fireworks are sold.  I don&#8217;t think that there should be laws that create contempt for the law.  Either let fireworks be legal (perhaps with a signed waiver filed stating that the buyer assumes all responsibility for the proper use of them) or if they are so dangerous that their use is illegal, then the sale (and the states profit from the sales) should not be allowed.</p>
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		<title>By: Nance Confer</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2009/07/04/fireworks-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-1092710</link>
		<dc:creator>Nance Confer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked the way the police here handled things last night.

They dealt calmly and quickly with the real emergency -- the 22-yo about to leave for his stint in the military out drinking beer and talking on his cell phone who ran into the pickup truck parked in front of the neighbor&#039;s house, injuring (but not as badly as everyone thought at first) the visiting uncle who was sitting on the back of the truck watching the fireworks.

They ignored the numerous calls on their walkie-talkies, or whatever they are, complaining about noise from fireworks. They told DH that later in the evening they would drive by neighborhoods that still had complaints to encourage winding the festivities down.

And, yes, fireworks other than sparklers are illegal here, too. Unless you sign a waiver saying you are buying them to scare away birds from your crops. Which everyone signs and everyone knows is a lie. 

Nance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the way the police here handled things last night.</p>
<p>They dealt calmly and quickly with the real emergency &#8212; the 22-yo about to leave for his stint in the military out drinking beer and talking on his cell phone who ran into the pickup truck parked in front of the neighbor&#8217;s house, injuring (but not as badly as everyone thought at first) the visiting uncle who was sitting on the back of the truck watching the fireworks.</p>
<p>They ignored the numerous calls on their walkie-talkies, or whatever they are, complaining about noise from fireworks. They told DH that later in the evening they would drive by neighborhoods that still had complaints to encourage winding the festivities down.</p>
<p>And, yes, fireworks other than sparklers are illegal here, too. Unless you sign a waiver saying you are buying them to scare away birds from your crops. Which everyone signs and everyone knows is a lie. </p>
<p>Nance</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2009/07/04/fireworks-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-1092607</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last year we had a fireworks ban because of extreme drought conditions.  That (temporary) law made a lot of sense, although my kids were very disappointed.  This year, when my husband went buy fireworks, our friend Rick who runs the fireworks stand, commented that people were in sort of a frenzy after last year&#039;s deprivation; &quot;They aren&#039;t spending more than usual, but they&#039;re going for the bigger stuff.&quot;  

When people get hurt in car or bicycle accidents, we have safety campaigns.  In October we see trick or treat safety projects, but we never see &quot;Fireworks safety&quot; being promoted around the Fourth.  

I would think most harm resulting to other persons or property could be dealt with under existing law; shouldn&#039;t purposefully aiming a Roman candle at someone else be treated as some sort of misdemeanor assault?  In other words, if you are foolish and cause harm, the law should hold you responsible for that harm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last year we had a fireworks ban because of extreme drought conditions.  That (temporary) law made a lot of sense, although my kids were very disappointed.  This year, when my husband went buy fireworks, our friend Rick who runs the fireworks stand, commented that people were in sort of a frenzy after last year&#8217;s deprivation; &#8220;They aren&#8217;t spending more than usual, but they&#8217;re going for the bigger stuff.&#8221;  </p>
<p>When people get hurt in car or bicycle accidents, we have safety campaigns.  In October we see trick or treat safety projects, but we never see &#8220;Fireworks safety&#8221; being promoted around the Fourth.  </p>
<p>I would think most harm resulting to other persons or property could be dealt with under existing law; shouldn&#8217;t purposefully aiming a Roman candle at someone else be treated as some sort of misdemeanor assault?  In other words, if you are foolish and cause harm, the law should hold you responsible for that harm.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 04:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The private fireworks set off in the driveways of our neighbors rivaled the professional display.  Maybe not in the individual fireworks set off, but for duration, variety and noise.  They&#039;ve made a thick. gunpowdery fog covering the entire town.

Limited to this one day, I don&#039;t mind it, but like Michele, I&#039;d like there to be a bit more to the celebration than &quot;Ooh, sparklies!&quot;

Fortunately, none of our animals mind, and the children are fine so long as they are inside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The private fireworks set off in the driveways of our neighbors rivaled the professional display.  Maybe not in the individual fireworks set off, but for duration, variety and noise.  They&#8217;ve made a thick. gunpowdery fog covering the entire town.</p>
<p>Limited to this one day, I don&#8217;t mind it, but like Michele, I&#8217;d like there to be a bit more to the celebration than &#8220;Ooh, sparklies!&#8221;</p>
<p>Fortunately, none of our animals mind, and the children are fine so long as they are inside.</p>
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		<title>By: Molytail</title>
		<link>http://principleddiscovery.com/2009/07/04/fireworks-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-1092515</link>
		<dc:creator>Molytail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 03:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See now, fireworks being legal for the average joe to purchase and use is what strikes me as weird because I&#039;ve never lived where you could just buy them &amp; set them off... shows were put on by towns on Canada Day and it required permits, roped off safe areas, firetrucks nearby in case they were needed, etc... the idea of setting them off in the backyard is just so strange to me! ;-)

(sparklers - those skinny grey things - didn&#039;t count)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See now, fireworks being legal for the average joe to purchase and use is what strikes me as weird because I&#8217;ve never lived where you could just buy them &amp; set them off&#8230; shows were put on by towns on Canada Day and it required permits, roped off safe areas, firetrucks nearby in case they were needed, etc&#8230; the idea of setting them off in the backyard is just so strange to me! <img src='http://principleddiscovery.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(sparklers &#8211; those skinny grey things &#8211; didn&#8217;t count)</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian (a lady)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian (a lady)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 00:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What bothers me most are the states where sales are legal but use is not.  Where buyers have to sign a form stating that they will have the fireworks outside the state within 24 hours, ignoring the fact that neighboring states also have similar laws and that the closest legal place to use the fireworks might be several states and a few hundred miles away.

I have a relative who was involved with enforcing the laws on sale of fireworks and big fireworks displays for a few years. There is a lot of money at stake with these sales.  The states get plenty in tax money and legislators get a fair amount in campaign donations from the companies involved in selling fireworks, so they are loath to change a system that boils down to, &quot;Too dangerous to use in our state but to profitable to stop selling.&quot;

But then, I have so many family members in the fire and rescue service with stories of fires or horrible injuries from fireworks to be anything but a terrible fireworks grinch.  Big, well set up display or nothing for our family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What bothers me most are the states where sales are legal but use is not.  Where buyers have to sign a form stating that they will have the fireworks outside the state within 24 hours, ignoring the fact that neighboring states also have similar laws and that the closest legal place to use the fireworks might be several states and a few hundred miles away.</p>
<p>I have a relative who was involved with enforcing the laws on sale of fireworks and big fireworks displays for a few years. There is a lot of money at stake with these sales.  The states get plenty in tax money and legislators get a fair amount in campaign donations from the companies involved in selling fireworks, so they are loath to change a system that boils down to, &#8220;Too dangerous to use in our state but to profitable to stop selling.&#8221;</p>
<p>But then, I have so many family members in the fire and rescue service with stories of fires or horrible injuries from fireworks to be anything but a terrible fireworks grinch.  Big, well set up display or nothing for our family.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For four hours tonight, all sorts of stuff may legally be shot off at one of the state parks near here.  Fire department and other emergency personnel will be there.  Seems like a nice way to do it. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For four hours tonight, all sorts of stuff may legally be shot off at one of the state parks near here.  Fire department and other emergency personnel will be there.  Seems like a nice way to do it. <img src='http://principleddiscovery.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Charity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our former governor, Howard Dean, stepped on a still-hot sparkler stem barefoot when he was a kid and burned himself.  So, all fireworks, including sparklers, were illegal in Vermont, while he was governor.  They were made legal again as soon as he left office.

Needless to say, I am glad his presidential ambitions never materialized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our former governor, Howard Dean, stepped on a still-hot sparkler stem barefoot when he was a kid and burned himself.  So, all fireworks, including sparklers, were illegal in Vermont, while he was governor.  They were made legal again as soon as he left office.</p>
<p>Needless to say, I am glad his presidential ambitions never materialized.</p>
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		<title>By: Michele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s illegal here too, but right over the border one can buy them freely. They go off here in our neighborhood all the time; no enforcement. I just pray they don&#039;t get them near our house. And my autie kiddos have sensitive hearing. PErsonally I hate the things.

There&#039;s some interesting info on how the founders forsaw the 4th being &quot;celebrated&quot; (hint, no beer or firecrackers were mentioned!)

http://liveandlearnonthespectrum.blogspot.com/2009/07/independence-day.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s illegal here too, but right over the border one can buy them freely. They go off here in our neighborhood all the time; no enforcement. I just pray they don&#8217;t get them near our house. And my autie kiddos have sensitive hearing. PErsonally I hate the things.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s some interesting info on how the founders forsaw the 4th being &#8220;celebrated&#8221; (hint, no beer or firecrackers were mentioned!)</p>
<p><a href="http://liveandlearnonthespectrum.blogspot.com/2009/07/independence-day.html" rel="nofollow">http://liveandlearnonthespectrum.blogspot.com/2009/07/independence-day.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who ever said government had to make sense?  I think maybe they wanted the tax revenue or something.

A lot of states have actually stepped away from anti-fireworks laws in recent years, and I think I remember CT being on the list, though I can&#039;t find the list now.  At least &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fireworks.com/fireworks_laws/laws_connecticut.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;some seem to be legal&lt;/a&gt;.  Curious about the novelty items though. From my understanding, novelties are things like those little poppers that drop out prizes when you pull on the tube.  Nothing is lit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who ever said government had to make sense?  I think maybe they wanted the tax revenue or something.</p>
<p>A lot of states have actually stepped away from anti-fireworks laws in recent years, and I think I remember CT being on the list, though I can&#8217;t find the list now.  At least <a href="http://www.fireworks.com/fireworks_laws/laws_connecticut.asp" rel="nofollow">some seem to be legal</a>.  Curious about the novelty items though. From my understanding, novelties are things like those little poppers that drop out prizes when you pull on the tube.  Nothing is lit.</p>
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